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mattyb1982
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I would like to have a discussion about the fact that marriage in the West is a lose lose proposition for men. It's my hope that this will not turn into a flame war.
MY POV
We all know the statistics, about 50% of all marriages end in divorce and women initiate 60 to 70% of all divorces.
For men there really is not any benefit to having a marriage in the eyes of the law.
Women truly cannot comprehend what a man gives up when he gets married. We give up the right toward children in the eyes of the law children are the property of the mother not the father.
With the advent of no-fault divorces we have no control over whether we actually stay married to our spouse or not and when the divorce does occur men are financially ruined.
Not only must we give up 50% of our net worth, we are usually kicked out of our homes, See kids a few days a week if we are lucky and pay child support that we can't even be sure is going to the care of our children, in fact a lot of the times that money is being used by the ex-wife for her own personal gains.
Engagement rings in our society are complete and utter waste of money. It's not like the majority of women are virgins or we are in a culture where he must pay the father for his daughter to take as a bride. It's part of the female or feminist entitlement complex. If a man says let's save that money and use it for our honeymoon or towards our new home most women will cry that's the guy is a jerk, cheap and is depriving his fiance of something she has been looking forward to since childhood.
Weddings we must all agree is a party for the wife not a celebration of the union that is to take place.
And bachelor parties are just an excuse for more debauchery. As a Christian man the whole idea of one last night of singleness prior to making a public commitment to your fiancé for a lifetime of monogamy simply just doesn't make any sense for Christian. I think it invites our non-Christian friends and baby Christian friends to open S I N into our lives. Guys are expected to go to strip clubs and women are expected to go out drinking with their friends which some of whom are going to be trying to get the bride to cheat on her fiancé sadly.
I am all for having the celebration of the decision for a man and woman to enter into a lifelong monogamous relationship with the witnesses to keep both parties to their promise to each other.
but the moment we allow the government to become a part of our marriage the failure rate just skyrockets. There are simply too many benefits for women and not a single one for men. Why do you think we have all these walkaway brides , delusional women in their 40s and 50s who think that they are still attractive and that they can catch the guy of their dreams.
You may be a guy reading this and agree with my thoughts but thinking that if you forgo the engagement typical Western wedding and the marriage license women won't marry you. This is simply not the case. Women Christian or not will follow a man who leads. And if a woman wont marry you in the biblical sense without all the Cinderella trappings and a legal binding contract that only benefits her then she is simply not worth marrying. After all most people especially Christians think that a prenuptial agreement is not kosher, but if that's not a good thing then why is a legal marriage certificate a good thing?
What are your thoughts?
MY POV
We all know the statistics, about 50% of all marriages end in divorce and women initiate 60 to 70% of all divorces.
For men there really is not any benefit to having a marriage in the eyes of the law.
Women truly cannot comprehend what a man gives up when he gets married. We give up the right toward children in the eyes of the law children are the property of the mother not the father.
With the advent of no-fault divorces we have no control over whether we actually stay married to our spouse or not and when the divorce does occur men are financially ruined.
Not only must we give up 50% of our net worth, we are usually kicked out of our homes, See kids a few days a week if we are lucky and pay child support that we can't even be sure is going to the care of our children, in fact a lot of the times that money is being used by the ex-wife for her own personal gains.
Engagement rings in our society are complete and utter waste of money. It's not like the majority of women are virgins or we are in a culture where he must pay the father for his daughter to take as a bride. It's part of the female or feminist entitlement complex. If a man says let's save that money and use it for our honeymoon or towards our new home most women will cry that's the guy is a jerk, cheap and is depriving his fiance of something she has been looking forward to since childhood.
Weddings we must all agree is a party for the wife not a celebration of the union that is to take place.
And bachelor parties are just an excuse for more debauchery. As a Christian man the whole idea of one last night of singleness prior to making a public commitment to your fiancé for a lifetime of monogamy simply just doesn't make any sense for Christian. I think it invites our non-Christian friends and baby Christian friends to open S I N into our lives. Guys are expected to go to strip clubs and women are expected to go out drinking with their friends which some of whom are going to be trying to get the bride to cheat on her fiancé sadly.
I am all for having the celebration of the decision for a man and woman to enter into a lifelong monogamous relationship with the witnesses to keep both parties to their promise to each other.
but the moment we allow the government to become a part of our marriage the failure rate just skyrockets. There are simply too many benefits for women and not a single one for men. Why do you think we have all these walkaway brides , delusional women in their 40s and 50s who think that they are still attractive and that they can catch the guy of their dreams.
You may be a guy reading this and agree with my thoughts but thinking that if you forgo the engagement typical Western wedding and the marriage license women won't marry you. This is simply not the case. Women Christian or not will follow a man who leads. And if a woman wont marry you in the biblical sense without all the Cinderella trappings and a legal binding contract that only benefits her then she is simply not worth marrying. After all most people especially Christians think that a prenuptial agreement is not kosher, but if that's not a good thing then why is a legal marriage certificate a good thing?
What are your thoughts?
