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Some people are more or less sane. Some people are sixty-three squares short of a chess board. Because of forum rules, I can't clarify or specify.You referred to 'Insane persons', given mankind's history, do you really believe mankind
is sane?
Hello Gracchus.Some people are more or less sane. Some people are sixty-three squares short of a chess board. Because of forum rules, I can't clarify or specify.
So if gravity can't pull down gas clouds, how do you explain the atmosphere staying on the Earth?
Given that a stellar nebula will have a vastly larger mass then a planet, why wouldn't the gas and dust be pulled together?
Hello SubductionZone.
In post #80, you made the following comment.
The assumption or even better SZ, the belief in 'Uniformitarianism'.
Uniformitarianism is the principle or assumption that the same natural laws...
(Wikipedia)
The definition of an 'assumption' by the way SZ, is a belief without proof.
Do you like that definition SZ, notice the word 'belief'.
Assumption = Belief
Atheism as an idealism which it is SZ, is a lack of belief in a God or Gods.
Atheism in practice though, is the astounding acceptance of every assumption
or belief in existence. Your a true believer in every sense of the word, but you
never realized it.
You take a snap shot of the present forces, states, and processes. Then believe (assume)
that everything that ever happened in the deeper past, will reflect these present processes.
Your replied that the hydrogen density was greater in the past, SZ, will you please
in future list your assumptions first, before making any claim without proof.
For example SZ your assumptions or beliefs, will be as follows.
1) You believe in the Big Bang theory of the origin of the universe.
2) You believe that past processes never were the result of any supernatural forces
3) You believe that present processes reflect exactly how all past processes occurred
4) You believe that the evidence for the existence of God is unsatisfactory
5) You believe that you can know and identify what this evidence for God is
6) You believe that the information that your senses detect is always valid information
7) You believe in an objective concensus for the establishment of all truth
8) You believe that experimentation will support your belief system
9) You believe that the claim of empiricism is valid
10) You believe your cognitive thought patterns are trustworthy on all matters
11) You certainly believe that those that follow a creation account, do not understand
what an assumption (belief) is? This beggars belief (assumption).
By the way SZ, believe nothing of what you will ever read, and only five percent
of what you think you observe.
So, the gas in the upper atmosphere hands near the Earth for what reason? Friendship? Miracles?Temperature for one. Raise the temperature and the gas gets active
and moves more, spreading out.
Try grabbing a handful of any gas. The only way to do it is
in some type of containment tank that limits the area that a gas
can expand into.
Hello Gracchus.
If that is what you believe in, then for you that is true.
Temperature for one. Raise the temperature and the gas gets active
and moves more, spreading out.
I never made any claim regarding a young Earth or even a separate creation,If the observable scientific evidence supported a young Earth and separate
creation, why would you have to invent reasons to ignore it? Obviously, the scientific
evidence points to an old Earth and evolution. That is why you have had to invent a
spiritual realm as a rather poor justification for ignore the evidence.
I never made any claim regarding a young Earth or even a separate creation,
Loudmouth.
On the contrary Loudmouth, you need to justify the claims you have made.
In philosophy, naturalism is the "idea or belief that only natural (as opposed to
supernatural or spiritual) laws and forces, operate in the world." (wikipedia)
Will you know provide the proof, that this cosmos has a natural causation.
You also need to justify the following claim, that a spiritual realm does not exist.
Hello Loudmouth.Perhaps you can clear up any misunderstanding, if there is any. Do you think the Earth is much younger than the commonly accepted figure of 4.5 billion years? Do you think that species such as humans share a common ancestor with other species?
We aren't discussing the origin of the universe. We are discussing the Cambrian deposits and the life they contain.
Also, none of us are excluding any evidence presented by those who believe that life had a supernatural origin because no such evidence has been provided.
Will you know provide the proof, that this cosmos has a natural causation.
You also need to justify the following claim, that a spiritual realm does not exist.
Hello Loudmouth.
No misunderstanding that I can observe.
Please address the following.
You will need to justify the claims you have made.
In philosophy, naturalism is the "idea or belief that only natural (as opposed to
supernatural or spiritual) laws and forces, operate in the world." (wikipedia)
Will you know provide the proof, that this cosmos has a natural causation.
You also need to justify the following claim, that a spiritual realm does not exist.
No offense intended, but your powers of observation are somewhat problematic.No misunderstanding that I can observe.
Why must anyone provide "proof"? No one has ever shown that there is any causation other than the natural.Will you know provide the proof, that this cosmos has a natural causation.
There is no reason to believe in any "spiritual realm". Propositions asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. If you can demonstrate the "spiritual realm", then James Randi has a million dollars for you.You also need to justify the following claim, that a spiritual realm does not exist.
Do you know that you are just repeating another creationist canard. (I am looking for alternatives to "lie" because it gets boring).
Valentine, James W.
2005 “On the Origin of Phyla” University of Chicago Press
Erwin, Douglas H., James W. Valentine
2013 "The Cambrian Explosion: The Construction of Animal Diversity" New York: Roberts and Company Publishers
There are even more recent journal articles published. One I just read last night that was published in late November was on the newly discovered pre-Cambrian cell differentiation. See if you can work through the standard texts before venturing into the "state of the art."
Fossils layers typically represent the biome and fauna in which they lived. I wouldn't expect to find a rabbit there.
So, the gas in the upper atmosphere hands near the Earth for what reason? Friendship? Miracles?
And I'm not talking about grabbing it with my hand I'm talking about the combined mass 200 thousand times that of the Earth.
How does that compare to the force of gravity pulling it in? Why hasn't the Sun expanded out to the point where fusion stops at its core?
Have you seen what is at the sun's core?
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