The Brian Williams Debacle

[cow451]

Considering that there's an entire website devoted to the bias in reporting, I would guess not.

Yes any source with a website devoted to countering its distortions must be unreliable, right?

NewsHounds

 

[TerranceL]

By good, do you mean "objective"?

Yes, more objective than what we see in america.

 

[bhsmte]

Yes, more objective than what we see in america.

That is a pretty low bar.

 

[TerranceL]

That is a pretty low bar.

LOL Ok yeah that's true too.

 

[GQ Chris]

forget about Brian Williams. barry soetorro hasn't stopped lying!!

 

[DaisyDay]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/b...uspended-by-nbc-news-for-six-months.html?_r=0

He's been suspended for 6 months.

Jon Stewart makes fun of his friend:
Jon Stewart rips pal Brian Williams over helicopter scandal - NY Daily News

 

[DaisyDay]

forget about Brian Williams. barry soetorro hasn't stopped lying!!

iObama!

 

[bhsmte]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/02/11/b...uspended-by-nbc-news-for-six-months.html?_r=0

He's been suspended for 6 months.

Jon Stewart makes fun of his friend:
Jon Stewart rips pal Brian Williams over helicopter scandal - NY Daily News

Interesting.

Something tells me, NBC's work on determining what their viewership feels about Williams, was likely many are extremely ticked off about it.

I think he is done.

 

[NightHawkeye]

Interesting.

Something tells me, NBC's work on determining what their viewership feels about Williams, was likely many are extremely ticked off about it.

I think he is done.

It may depend on how their new anchor does. If ratings dive and stay down, then they may want to bring Williams back after six months. If ratings stay up then they'll be happy to hang him out permanently.

 

[bhsmte]

It may depend on how their new anchor does. If ratings dive and stay down, then they may want to bring Williams back after six months. If ratings stay up then they'll be happy to hang him out permanently.

Could be, but IMO, 6 months is a death sentence for him.

If they had any inkling of bringing him back, I think the suspension would have been 30-60 days, tops.

I think he is done, at least at NBC.

 

[iluvatar5150]

Could be, but IMO, 6 months is a death sentence for him.

If they had any inkling of bringing him back, I think the suspension would have been 30-60 days, tops.

I think he is done, at least at NBC.

Yep. He might wind up being a correspondent somewhere doing special reports, but I think he's done anchoring.

 

[cow451]

forget about Brian Williams. barry soetorro hasn't stopped lying!!

Hmmmmmmmmm

 

[HonestTruth]

Some folks claim it's the best in the world.

I watched a BBC news broadcast last night and it was clear this network is about as pro war as Fox. Instead of demanding that their own government in London fight against ISIS it insisted on having the USA do its fighting for them. If interested, you may check its website for further details.

 

[cow451]

I watched a BBC news broadcast last night and it was clear this network is about as pro war as Fox. Instead of demanding that their own government in London fight against ISIS it insisted on having the USA do its fighting for them. If interested, you may check its website for further details.

Some veterans I know joke that ISAF stands for "I Saw Americans Fight".

 

[wing2000]

Jon Stewart makes fun of his friend:
Jon Stewart rips pal Brian Williams over helicopter scandal - NY Daily News

"Info-tainment confusion syndrome."

 

[Avid]

Originally Posted by wing2000

I think it says more about us as media consumers.
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Not all of us.

Speak for yourself

I very very rarely watch tv, a decade or so ago I'd watch a lot, tv apparently took a dislike to me and stopped working so I just read a lot more and found my news online...

Gave up on trusting any of these people... If we ever see that the "NEWS" has been like Brian Williams for over 100 years, we would all be disgusted, and they WOULD need to find a different job.

Someone said it was an impossible standard for "journalists?" How is simply reporting what you know, apologizing when you discover you had part of it wrong, and sticking to the truth to be considered impossible? Well, it is impossible for a different reason.

Before many of us here were even born, John Swinden, the head of the New York Times made this statement (in 1953) when asked to toast the "independent press" at a meeting of the National Press Club.

"There is no such thing at this date of the world's history in America as an independent press. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to write your honest opinion, and if you did, you know beforehand it would never appear in print. I am paid weekly for keeping my honest opinion out of the paper. Others of you are paid similar salaries for similar things, and any of you who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the street looking for another job. If I allow my honest opinion to appear in one issue of my paper, before 24 hours, my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth, to lie outright, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread. You know it, and I know it, and what folly is this, toasting an independent press? We are the tools and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are the Jumping Jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
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Any who are under the impression it is different now, or has been in our lifetime, is ignoring the obvious. We might say Brian Williams is a symptom. The truth about any matter may be the cure we all need...

 

[Sistrin]

 

[Avid]

... Classic deflection, classic ad-hominem.

For the record, I don't like Bill O'Reilly personally. I actually agree with the Daily Kos' opinion that he's arrogant, rude, and a bully. But that has nothing to do with the Brian Williams debacle whatsoever.

To be honest, I agree with you, and many people I like agree with you. Have a friend who is notably older that sent me some of O'Reilly's books. He said give them away after I read them, but don't send them back. About that time, I started to have this opinion, and would do the same with them, as soon as I find someone who would take them...

It is NOT, however, that he could never say anything I agree with. It is NOT that he always lies or even EVER lies. That is not the point. I have lost interest in hearing or watching him, and it is for the same reasons many others have. Ted Baxter??? Boortz calls him "the Leprechaun."