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The bible has never been proven wrong
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nick garai
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Yes I do believe this. Scripture is 99% accurate with some inconsistencies that are relatively minor.
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I think scripture has been largely misunderstood, and some of those misunderstandings have been proven false. The modern tendency, in my opinion, is to look backward at ancient people, their writings, their pictograms or heiroglyphs, etc, and assume from an imagined lofty perspective, that this is evidence of early man just beginning to take baby steps toward intelligent thought.
I look at it as though they were highly intelligent, and had no concept of the restraints on the freedom of expression which is usually common in academia today. IOW, in modern academia you can't simply give a speech about heavens, winds, and rivers flowing from eden, if you really mean it, without being considered a crazy man, but in ancient times it may have been very normal to communicate with a language that was rich with symbolism. Symbols are still the atomic building blocks of our languages today, after all.
I look at it as though they were highly intelligent, and had no concept of the restraints on the freedom of expression which is usually common in academia today. IOW, in modern academia you can't simply give a speech about heavens, winds, and rivers flowing from eden, if you really mean it, without being considered a crazy man, but in ancient times it may have been very normal to communicate with a language that was rich with symbolism. Symbols are still the atomic building blocks of our languages today, after all.
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yeshuaslavejeff
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perhaps it's good. actually, it doesn't matter (what archaeology shows).
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Yhvh says "man's wisdom is foolishness" and so on.
and "what is born of the flesh, is flesh, and profits nothing" (this includes all human endeavor in the flesh (which includes the mind of the flesh, etc) )
ecclesia abide as one in Yhvh in Yahshua. nothing man (or men) does can alter that. nothing mankind or the enemy of Yhvh does can shake them. (oh, they can be killed/martyred - without resisting, they are not afraid at all, but die willingly and joyfully rejoicing in Yahshua HaMoshiach)
ecclesia don't have to argue with the worldlings, the carnal, the fleshly. it's no use anyway.
Yhvh is Perfect. Yhvh knows what He's Doing, and He is teaching His ecclesia.
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Yhvh says "man's wisdom is foolishness" and so on.
and "what is born of the flesh, is flesh, and profits nothing" (this includes all human endeavor in the flesh (which includes the mind of the flesh, etc) )
ecclesia abide as one in Yhvh in Yahshua. nothing man (or men) does can alter that. nothing mankind or the enemy of Yhvh does can shake them. (oh, they can be killed/martyred - without resisting, they are not afraid at all, but die willingly and joyfully rejoicing in Yahshua HaMoshiach)
ecclesia don't have to argue with the worldlings, the carnal, the fleshly. it's no use anyway.
Yhvh is Perfect. Yhvh knows what He's Doing, and He is teaching His ecclesia.
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bhsmte
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I am referring mostly to the NT, which have investigated quite in depth from a historical stand point, by reading much work from various NT historians.
Lots of varying opinions which have a wide range, but there is only a consensus from NT historians on the following being historically credible in regards to the gospels:
-Jesus was a real person
-Jesus was baptized
-Jesus had followers
-Jesus was crucified
Beyond that, it gets dicey.
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bhsmte
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People have believed in a lot of things based on emotion, fear and all sorts of things. Why have people in cults decided to commit mass suicide to follow their leader?
The story has a lot of holes when examined thoroughly and from a historical perspective. I have no issue with people claiming to believe it on faith though, but when they claim they can prove the story is factually true, is when I start to ask questions.
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It's virtually impossible to disprove what is at its core a matter of faith. Conversely, it can't be proven completely right either. I don't think anyone of faith would believe if he or she didn't take the Bible to be correct though.
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bhsmte
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Exactly, you can't prove a negative. Just as you can't show it is impossible that those who believe in other Gods are in fact correct.
If in some remote part of the world, a group of people claimed a different God appeared before them and they had many people claiming this, you couldn't prove this was impossible either.
That is the beauty of faith beliefs, if they work for you and make you a better person, than they are right for you, whatever they are.
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Huh? "The Bible has never been proven wrong"
Can you explain what this means?
There are certainly elements of the bible, certain stories, for example - that are presented as literal and meant to be taken that way but I personally find difficult to believe.
Anyway - what do you mean by "wrong"? Does this mean:
Incorrect in some way by some standard that is provably correct?
Morally incorrect in some way by some standard that is provably moral?
The question presented is highly ambiguous to me, especially as it's referring to the whole bible and not something specific within it.
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Rhamiel
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I believe it is all true
but it might not all be factual
like the Genealogies in Genesis
if they are all factual, then the earth is about 6,000 years old
I am not inclined to believe this
but you have to remember, God did not say "take this genealogy and use it to calculate the age of Creation"
it was meant to show family lines
THAT is what ancient tribal cultures cared about
so in that respect, I think it is true
the Bible does not have to be 100% literal to be 100% true
but it might not all be factual
like the Genealogies in Genesis
if they are all factual, then the earth is about 6,000 years old
I am not inclined to believe this
but you have to remember, God did not say "take this genealogy and use it to calculate the age of Creation"
it was meant to show family lines
THAT is what ancient tribal cultures cared about
so in that respect, I think it is true
the Bible does not have to be 100% literal to be 100% true
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I thought of this too. However, I felt the OP was referring to the narrative events presented by the text. Nonetheless, some clarification might be helpful.
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Wrong in what sense? Much of it is factually wrong in a historical sense but was never meant to be taken as historical fact, so it's not wrong in terms of its purpose.
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It's never a matter of whether it's "right" or "wrong", disputes usually come down to someone misunderstanding how something is interpreted, and inserting a concept or law or idea into the text that was never there.
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