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The Bible as an academic source?

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Well...

If the goal of Satan is to dumb down the population, then the Bible is the number one enemy.

Too much truth is dangerous to his plans.

If a particular Holy Book from another religion lacks Truth, then sure... teach it everywhere... lol.

That's Spiritual Wickedness for ya!
 
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It can be considered and studied in college and public schools as literature, but not cited as an academic yet other religious texts like Koran and Torah,etc can? Why is that?

It can be cited, it's just not considered uniquely authoritative necessarily, as it would be in a religious context.
 
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A non-believer is not going to consider any religious book as academic. 1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. An academic source in the social or natural sciences is scientific based. This would not mean you could not use a principle or thought from the bible, and cite it like you would any other book.
 
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A non-believer is not going to consider any religious book as academic. 1 Corinthians 2:14 (KJV)
14 But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. An academic source in the social or natural sciences is scientific based. This would not mean you could not use a principle or thought from the bible, and cite it like you would any other book.
Not true. Some of the greatest biblical historians aren't Christians or theists or all. Amy Jill-Levine is a very well regarded New Testament scholar who is also a practicing Jew. Even for people who aren't believers in God the Bible is considered an important historical and philosophical work.
 
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It can be considered and studied in college and public schools as literature, but not cited as an academic yet other religious texts like Koran and Torah,etc can? Why is that?

Not sure exactly what you mean, but the Bible is used as an academic source in some contexts. The KJV is recognised in academia for its influence in the development of English language, e.g. Melvin Bragg’s Book of Books. Do you mean things like the Koran being cited for claims of scientific accuracy, e.g. the development of a fetus as a ‘blood clot’?
 
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It can be considered and studied in college and public schools as literature, but not cited as an academic yet other religious texts like Koran and Torah,etc can? Why is that?
Given that the texts of the Torah predate the New Testament, one would hardly expect it to cite books written at a later date especially when it focuses on a "Prophet" that the Jewish authorities had rejected!

As for the Koran, the canon of the Bible, as we know it, was decided by the Pope in 397 AD - given that they were all copied by hand, the few copies that existed were closely guarded and may not have found their way down the Arabian peninsula!
 
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I recently got admitted to medical school. Though I have a degree already, I never witnessed such a conduct at any university as I have here. The opening ceremony was very traditional and very well executed. Both the principal and health minister were both holding speeches in which they quoted or paraphrased relevant passages from the bible, such as the creation and purpose of man or Jesus' teachings in the Gospel, as well as drew attention to various theological teachings of Luther, Augustine, Aquinas and even Newton. It all culminated in a message of about service to mankind with self sacrifice and faith, to show humility in everything but ones goals and ended with a final call to work and pray.
We were also required to take an oath in God's name.

I believe this sort of biblical guidance to one's morality and conduct as well as references to the teachings of Christ are paramount. As Arthur Wellesley has rightly said: "Educate men without religion and you make of them but clever devils."
 
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It can be considered and studied in college and public schools as literature, but not cited as an academic yet other religious texts like Koran and Torah,etc can? Why is that?

It depends upon the college instructor, most of whom are atheist and/or secularized agnostics.

It's not just colleges that impugn the legitimacy of Holy Writ. Several major Christian denominations in America have voted upon and accepted a statement that the Bible is A word of god, deleting previous assertions that the Bible is THE Word of God. Only a few letters, but it reduces the Bible in the eyes of denominational churches to that of common grocery store tabloids.

I attended a seminary where it was forbidden for any of us to quote the Bible when we wrote required papers on theology or church history.

I was later told that I would not be admitted to holy orders of ministry on one of these churches until or unless I recanted my faith in Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior. "Why can't you understand," I was asked, "it's just a job."

Today sermons in most churches are simple situation ethics. They do not refer to the Bible except as a supporting argument. Their ethical statements sometimes exceed Biblical context, but without proper references or education the laity do not know they're being led astray.

In one church I heard a guest speaker use Muslim references in his topical sermon (*). The congregation nodded their heads and smiled, not knowing the proverbs and hypothetical situations posed to them were of Islamic origin. I knew because I studied. I volunteered to host a course on some of this, but was denied.

Finally the key to navigating today's atheistic academia is proper education and training in Christian literature, Bible literature and apologetics prior to the university experience. Nobody today is getting that sort of preparation. As a result our Christian young are led to the slaughter by their own parents who sometimes know less about the battle than their kids do.

Do YOU know what pastafarianism is? I asked a high school boy and he knew. His Youth Minister, who was standing there with us, did not. If our leaders don't know what's going on how shall the young be taught?

The problem isn't strictly a college problem. Its the problem of every Christian - young or old. The BIG PROBLEM is that nobody cares. Nobody gives two cents to work the problem. Consequently the new generation is already lost. The older generation never cared in the first place. If they attend a "Bible study" its usually a regurgitated middle school level hodgepodge of religious slogans and buzz words. There is no search for truth and the laity are never taught how to find it.

In the Catholic church the attitude of leaders is that the Bible isn't a playground for the laity. (A former nun informed me of this attitude.) In Protestant churches the people are too busy with sports tournaments, celebrity mischief and the pressures of everyday life to worry about detailed exhaustive Bible study. The flocks of Christ are not being taught to care.

In the book of Amos, the prophet bemoaned a famine of the Word of God. Today it isn't God, but our own church leaders who've decreed a famine of the Word of God. We are starving and poor and naked and we don't even know it.

We as a nation are lost and will suffer terribly for our neglect.

that's me, hollering from the choir loft...

(*) There are two basic types of sermon; topical and scriptural.

A topical sermon is preached on any subject and may or may not use passages of scripture to support the main argument or contention of the speaker.

A scriptural sermon is delivered from a chapter or portion of a chapter. The speaker does an exegetical interpretation of each line of scripture as he or she goes along. Such sermons require a lot of time to develop and deliver properly and as a consequence are rare things.
 
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