The Bible Answer Man?

[frost]

Does anyone know exactly what Hank Hanegraaff's views are? I've only listened to his show a few times but I've heard him speak against predestination, yet for OSAS which seems a contridiction. Also, I've heard him speak against dispensational eschatology, yet also against preterism and Amillenianism. So, where does he stand? Is he reformed, Arminian, or somewhere in between?

blessings...

 

[Irishcat922]

In doctrinal Limbo?

 

[Gamecock]

Does anyone know exactly what Hank Hanegraaff's views are? I've only listened to his show a few times but I've heard him speak against predestination, yet for OSAS which seems a contridiction. Also, I've heard him speak against dispensational eschatology, yet also against preterism and Amillenianism. So, where does he stand? Is he reformed, Arminian, or somewhere in between?

blessings...

OSAS is not the same thing as the "p" pedal in TULIP. It is, by implication, still based on man having saved himself.

He is a pre-trib premil dispy. Listen enough and it will come out.......

 

[BBAS 64]

In doctrinal Limbo?

Good Day, Irish

, that is a fine assesment. I use to listen to him alot and like him, but he has gone way off track IMO. His responsible grace drives my nuts, if you listen to the White vs. Brison [sp] debate his ture colors come out.

There was a blog about him here: Tuesday November 9

http://ntrminblog.blogspot.com/

Peace to u,

Bill

 

[ClementofRome]

OSAS is not the same thing as the "p" pedal in TULIP. It is, by implication, still based on man having saved himself.

He is a pre-trib premil dispy. Listen enough and it will come out.......

I know that this is not a debate thread and I do not mean to start one....just a question: To say OSAS is not the same thing as "P", I believe is a conclusion that must not necessarily be the case. My father-in-law was a full blown Regular Baptist who used the phrase OSAS all the time and meant it in the exact same way reformational theology uses "P."

Is your statement based on a contemporary use of OSAS by "freewill" types?

BTW.....Did you hear the Spurrier inauguration today! I am assuming your Gamecock "handle" places you in the good state of SC!

 

[joyousliving]

OSAS is not the same thing as the "p" pedal in TULIP. It is, by implication, still based on man having saved himself.

He is a pre-trib premil dispy. Listen enough and it will come out.......

I have a hard time seeing where he has said anything in support of pre-trib premil dispy. His show offers people of varied view points to discuss the view points in light of scripture.

His book "The Last Disciple" is a partial preterist view as I understand it. I would be inclined to believe that is more reflective of his viewpoint.

 

[Irishcat922]

The problem with Haanagraf is he won't commit to any particular's on crucial doctrinal issues, he just kind of hangs out in the alley of doctrinal ambiguity. His views on the Charismatics and especially W.O.F. are excellent though. I understand His Father was a Dutch reformed minister, it seems he should have listened more to his Father.

Prov 23:15 My son, if your heart is wise,my heart too will be glad.

 

[johnny_redeemed]

OSAS is not the same thing as the "p" pedal in TULIP. It is, by implication, still based on man having saved himself.

He is a pre-trib premil dispy. Listen enough and it will come out.......

I am glad you made that distenction!!!! GOOD JOB!

 

[frost]

Perhaps me using the term OSAS was incorrect (though I do understand the difference.) What I heard him say is that once a person trusts Christ's work on the cross for their salvation, he/she cannot lose that salvation. Of course the issue of what causes that person to trust Christ was not discussed but in general it sounded a lot like the P in TULIP. Yet later, he plainly spoke out against predestination, saying it takes you to the point of having to make God the author of evil. Thus the contradiction in his views.

 

[johnny_redeemed]

Perhaps me using the term OSAS was incorrect (though I do understand the difference.) What I heard him say is that once a person trusts Christ's work on the cross for their salvation, he/she cannot lose that salvation. Of course the issue of what causes that person to trust Christ was not discussed but in general it sounded a lot like the P in TULIP. Yet later, he plainly spoke out against predestination, saying it takes you to the point of having to make God the author of evil. Thus the contradiction in his views.

Can God decree something for a human to do and not be the author of it?

 

[ClementofRome]

Perhaps me using the term OSAS was incorrect (though I do understand the difference.) What I heard him say is that once a person trusts Christ's work on the cross for their salvation, he/she cannot lose that salvation. Of course the issue of what causes that person to trust Christ was not discussed but in general it sounded a lot like the P in TULIP. Yet later, he plainly spoke out against predestination, saying it takes you to the point of having to make God the author of evil. Thus the contradiction in his views.

Thanks frost for the clarification. Again, I was not out for a debate...just not quite sure what the implications of the language were going to be. Ahhh, the language....it is funny how two folks can really mean the same thing when different language has been employed and yet the vocabulary has not been defined in detail! Methinks, a postmodern problem in the making!

 

[johnny_redeemed]

Thanks frost for the clarification. Again, I was not out for a debate...just not quite sure what the implications of the language were going to be. Ahhh, the language....it is funny how two folks can really mean the same thing when different language has been employed and yet the vocabulary has not been defined in detail! Methinks, a postmodern problem in the making!

I hate the term postmodern!!!

 

[ClementofRome]

I hate the term postmodern!!!

Me too....can you think of a better one that we can begin to use that gets the same "relativism"/"relative meaning" idea across?

 

[joyousliving]

Postmodern works for me. A is A and not A at the same time works, but it's a bit wordy.

 

[ClementofRome]

Postmodern works for me. A is A and not A at the same time works, but it's a bit wordy.

...and we can continue to debate the definition of "is" ad infinitium!

 

[ps139]

I listen to Hank pretty often. As for end times I really think he is a partial preterist. Sometimes someone will call in with a deep question, I'll think to myself "I know where this is going! How's ol' Hank going to answer this one?" usually he gives 2 opposing points of view and calls the issue an "in-house debate." Then if the caller presses on, he usually does what all great talk show hosts do, either cue up the music and go to a commercial break, or pretend to not understand what the issue is and go off on some side point. I have a good laugh when he does this! I think part of it might have to do with the fact that after all, he is the "Bible Answer Man," and he wants to be considered "a-okay" in the minds of as many people (customers) as possible, so he doesnt seem want to take a side and lose potential listeners.

 

[Sola Gratia]

Hank is not a terribly competent teacher. Even I have caught errors in some of his answers.
He has little training and they say he took over the position when someone else should have taken it. There is much controversy.

He "says" his father was reformed , but his hatred of Calvinism is palpable .He also misstates the doctrine enough that either he never understood it or he is purposely doing so.

One time I heard a Jewish caller give him a run for his money. Finally the jewish caller said he was a student of a good Rabbi and the Rabbi would be glad to come on and debate him .

Needless to say when the student cleaned his clock he was not anxious for the teacher.


In short . Hank can be amusing, but if you have a real question , ask your pastor

 

[ps139]

He "says" his father was reformed , but his hatred of Calvinism is palpable .He also misstates the doctrine enough that either he never understood it or he is purposely doing so.

I've sensed this too, and I'm not Calvinist!

 

[Sola Gratia]

I've sensed this too, and I'm not Calvinist!

Ya could have fooled me with that picture

He also does not much like Catholics . I noticed that and I am not Catholic

 

[ps139]

Ya could have fooled me with that picture

Ahh I usually do... you must be a smart one!!

He also does not much like Catholics . I noticed that and I am not Catholic

LOL I noticed that too! Sometimes I laugh at what he says. But I am really happy that he is against the pretrib rapture view, if I went on there no one would listen to me, being the papist saint worshipping, Bible and heretic burner that I am , but they listen to Hank!