The best evidence for Creationism

[Wiccan_Child]

I am not only insane, I am also reading the christian bible each and every day. It is the patterns of the rainbow making me marvel, and can't understand how laws of physics create it. To me physical explination of the rainbow is pure nonsense. But you can always try to talk sense to me...

The laws are complicated, but they work.

Imagine you're standing in a wide field. The Sun is behind you, and a sheet of rain is in front of you (you're basically on the boundary of the rain). It's light is streaming from behind your head to your front.

Raindrops are spherical. When light enters them, it refracts off the back and comes back out the front again - the raindrops act like little mirrors. But, they don't reflect it back perfectly, they do it like so:

In reality, there would be incident rays (that is, rays of light coming from the Sun) hitting from the top to the bottom of the raindrop. But, for simplicity, only half the rays are shown - those that come in to the top half of the raindrop. When the rays hit the back, they bounce around in that complicated way and then stream outwards.

When this happens to many raindrops at once, they basically end up turning the light from the Sun back around, and spreading it outwards in a cone. This separates the light according to its wavelength, and so we see a circle of light appear in the sky. Since the circle is centred on the ground, we only see the top half - the rainbow.

Does that make sense?

 

[Lillen]

That part i understood, It was taught to me before sixth grade. But the reflections also show a pattern. Similar to IQ tests.

 

[Loudmouth]

Another example is if we collect the data of which I was within the experimental group. - The following words cured me "I bind you the spirit of accusation in the name of Jesus". That was the experiment which shows two things, evil spirits do exist, and it shows that the afflicted can be healed from it.

Has anyone run this experiment?

If people are not healed by this incantation does this mean that God does not exist?

 

[Loudmouth]

For creation, we can observe that the rainbow is there. And Noa is within the experimental group, what he observed was a coventant God made to all mankind, that He (God) will not destroy all living through another flood. The rainbow is there to observe for everyone. It an be tested (spray water before a light) and it can be retested (spray once again with water infront of a light bulb). It is there for everyone to observe. If I choose to break my own faith, It could be twisted into a science in one way or another. Not even the most fundamental scientist would disagree, Faith can be explained by science!!!

Wow. Just . . . wow.

Tell me if you think this is a convincing argument. Leprechauns created rainbows. We see rainbows. Therefore, Leprechauns are real. Are you convinced that Leprechauns are real?

 

[Lillen]

I am not certain what a leprechauns is? But the rainbow has a pattern, it is a bow and even though the caotic moisture in the air after a rainfall, it still shows seperate colours in form of a pattern.

 

[Loudmouth]

I am not certain what a leprechauns is? But the rainbow has a pattern, it is a bow and even though the caotic moisture in the air after a rainfall, it still shows seperate colours in form of a pattern.

So how does that evidence the existence of a supernatural deity?

 

[Lillen]

Tell me if you think this is a convincing argument. Leprechauns created rainbows. We see rainbows. Therefore, Leprechauns are real. Are you convinced that Leprechauns are real?

Let me ask this question in return. If leprechauns supposingly would have created the rainbows, it would actually be an evidence for their existance, no!!? Now the bible gives record that God did it. Thus it is a evidence that He exist!

 

[Lillen]

So how does that evidence the existence of a supernatural deity?

Because it is there for everyone to watch...

 

[Loudmouth]

Because it is there for everyone to watch...

How does being visible indicate that God exists? You are making less sense with each post.

 

[Loudmouth]

Let me ask this question in return. If leprechauns supposingly would have created the rainbows, it would actually be an evidence for their existance, no!!? Now the bible gives record that God did it. Thus it is a evidence that He exist!

The Bible CLAIMS that God did it. That is a claim, not evidence. Do you understand the difference between a claim and evidence?

 

[AV1611VET]

Does that make sense?

So the raindrop acts as a concave refractor to the light going in, but a convex refractor to the light going out?

 

[Lillen]

The Bible CLAIMS that God did it. That is a claim, not evidence. Do you understand the difference between a claim and evidence?

I guess you are about to enlighten me, or!?

The Bible CLAIMS that God did it. That is a claim, not evidence. Do you understand the difference between a claim and evidence?

And you claim that meduza did it.

 

[Lillen]

If people are not healed by this incantation does this mean that God does not exist?

The idea of placebo is actually hatched from the bible and it's followers.

 

[KhaosTheory]

The idea of placebo is actually hatched from the bible and it's followers.

Wow that's the first thing I've heard you say that seems to make sense... if i'm understanding you correctly.

You are absolutely right. Prayer does have a placebo effect with similar results as the sugar pill in medical studies.

Placebo Effect (Encyclopedia of Science and Religion) - eNotes.com

 

[Lillen]

No, the otherway around, placebo has a prayer effect. The doctors proffessing placebo treatment have an exaggeratted wish of feeling proffessional. In the end few doctors have so high influence on the afflicted so that the afflicted simply could rise up and walk. With guidance from the scriptuers anyone can get healed through faith in Jesus. From what so ever afflictions.

 

[Lillen]

Atleast we are in agreement. Prayers work.

 

[Trogool]

Atleast we are in agreement. Prayers work.

Prove it

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[Lillen]

But not to go in on such discussion... The rainbow's pattern and the fact that it is a bow instead of just white light shining is yet to be explained! Thats the evidence we have that a devine creator actually exist.

 

[Trogool]

but not to go in on such discussion... The rainbow's pattern and the fact that it is a bow instead of just white light shining is yet to be explained!

It was explained in 9th grade science for me.

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[Lillen]

If i prove it, will you dismiss everything i say and ask me again to prove it??