The Beast

[Gaston]

There will be antichrists in the last days and they are those who say that Jesus never existed in the flesh.

Seems like an ok movie for Christians to watch afterall!


Gaston

 

[Nathan Poe]

And where is his tomb?

I've lived in Jerusalem, and there are 2 places attributed to being Christ's tomb.

Duh! The empty one!

Because as we all KNOW, an empty tomb in Jerusalem is completely unheard of...

 

[Quijote]

Duh! The empty one!

Because as we all KNOW, an empty tomb in Jerusalem is completely unheard of...

 

[Quijote]

And where is his tomb?

I've lived in Jerusalem, and there are 2 places attributed to being Christ's tomb.


As for questioning whether or not Christ really existed in the flesh, that is not "blind hatred", that is merely questioning the existence of Christ in the flesh.

I think those who would accuse you of blind hatred might do it as a reflex: "what?! you don't believe Jesus existed, burn him!".

Anyway, I hope the link provided before was helpful.

cheers

 

[FullyAmbivalent]

http://members.aol.com/FLJOSEPHUS/testimonium.htm

for one.

Early church fathers.

http://www.ccel.org/fathers2

Seek and you will find.

See, I believe Master Jesus existed. However, I will also be the first to point out that, besides the bible and some other Gnostic texts there is only one HISTORICAL record of Jesus. And even that does not point to the Jesus of the bible but just to someone named Jesus (look in the phone book and you shall see many). The same can be said with about so many other Spiritual Masters of the past. Even if Jesus the person never existed, that does not mean that the teachings are not entirely true (I do believe that the current state of the Bible is false do to events in history where obvious changes have been made, so the only way to really get a clear understanding is to learn the to read in Greek and other tongues and read the original texts, or as original as we can get).

I do, however, believe that Master Jesus did exist. I do not, however, believe that his teachings have been followed very well. I believe over time they have been distorted and twisted for personal gain over the many of years that have pasted since the enlightnment of Master Jesus.

 

[Kelly]

I do, however, believe that Master Jesus did exist. I do not, however, believe that his teachings have been followed very well.

In particular "No one comes to the Father except through me." Kind of blows the "he was just a prophet/good teacher" stance out of the water.