The Animal Thread

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Toby. Hahahaha

 

[FredVB]

I am thinking certified humanely raised eggs will have to be looked into. With the egg industry in general baby male chicks are conveyed to a grinder where they are ground up alive, by the millions. It is not a blood free industry. "Humane meat" is nothing but a market ploy for sensitive buyers to pay a bit more and not buy meat less, with minimum token differences from the usual cruel industry. Eggs in any case can't be called healthy now and there are always better alternatives.

I hear that claim that there are such individuals that depend on meat, if it is true it is still very rare, and at least almost all people will be better off with eating whole food without any meat, according to many convincing studies including the largest most convincing study ever, the China Study. There is help to transition to that with tasty meals for the healthiest way for you or others, www.forksoverknives.com

Proverbs 12:10

I wonder, with concern, if it was a live dog that looks real, as it has the same position in two pictures.

I love the happy animal pictures still.

My dog is still very much alive. Even in the two pictures, she's not in the same pose. Here's a recent photo: View attachment 244950

I am glad to see the pictures, in both posts. I only had seen the two pictures in the top post and didn't know even if you knew the dog, it seemed to be postured the same way, and that made me question it.

 

[FredVB]

I like animals and watching them, it is certain that God cares for all of them, his creatures, too. This is true for the animals any of us have as pets, and those among wildlife too. And those kept in the industries for being used are not an exception, so I won't eat anything from them. It would be very sad to watch them. All the animals can be cared for, just as God their Creator does.

Though it commonly understood that God permitted meat according to his will for us, that it would continue, there isn't scriptures determining that to be the case. What permission there was, not very well understood as can be seen, was not meant to last. Some of us really like animals, and care for them. God, the Creator of all, does not care less. That goes for the great majority of individual land animals, which are in miserable conditions with a destiny to be slaughtered soon, as well as the remaining ones we already care for, and the fewer of remaining wildlife. If we do love animals, it would not be logically excluding that great majority of them. God does not exclude that care.

God said, "I have given you every herb that yields seed which is on the face of the earth, and every tree whose fruit yields seed, to you it shall be for food."

Yahweh God said "It is not good that man should live alone."

Out of the ground Yahweh God formed every beast of the field and every bird of the air, and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them.

Then Yahweh saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every intent of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually. So Yahweh said, "I will destroy man who I have created from the face of the earth, both man and beast, creeping thing and birds of the air." But Noah found grace in the eyes of Yahweh.

Then God spoke to Noah, saying, "Go out of the ark, you, your wife, your sons and their wives. Bring out with you every living thing of all flesh that is with you, that they may abound on the earth, and be fruitful and multiply on the earth."

Then Noah built an altar to Yahweh, and offered burnt offerings.

God blessed Noah and his sons, and said, "The fear of you and the dread of you shall be on every beast of the earth, on every bird of the air, on all that move on the earth, and all the fish of the sea. Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you, I have given you all things, even as the green herbs. But you shall not eat flesh with its blood. For your lifeblood I will require a reckoning."

It pleased the apostles and elders with the whole church, to send chosen men of their company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They wrote this letter: "It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things, that you abstain from things offered to idols, from blood, from what was strangled, and from sexual immorality. Keep yourselves from these, you will do well."

The earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it in hope, because the creation itself will also be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. For the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now.

"The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, the calf and the young lion and the fatling together, and a little child shall lead them. The cow and the bear shall graze, their young ones shall lie down together, and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. The nursing child shall play by the cobra's hole, and the weaned child shall put his hand in the viper's den. They shall not hurt or destroy in all my holy mountain, for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of Yahweh, as the waters cover the sea."

"God will wipe away every tear, there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed away."

We with being human are indeed made in the image of God, some being godly with following Christ the Lord are better as images of God than others, certainly more than those who will only live in an ungodly way. This does not show at all that all animals are without spirit, and indeed there is scripture showing otherwise, and it does not show that God, the Creator of all, does not care for other animals, God shows that he does.

Animals, even those that are by nature predators, show plenty of evidence, along with being social creatures, that they make choices that we would see as involving morality. We don't have a way of asking any of them about it. But think of such famous videos made available, as the cat that fought off a vicious dog attack likely saving the life of the little child in the family that the cat lived with. There are many anecdotes of animals rescuing people with their action.

While such saving action may be seen as selective, we ourselves as humans naturally make choices on a tribal level, caring for protection of those in our own household first, it is a higher level, to which some people don't come, to save others not in their own sphere.

Sacrifice mentioned in the Bible is generally not understood well, with what is thought reflecting sacrifice that God hated as those performing them had become so callous, and sacrifice was just something to be done. The meaning of sin being so horrible, and a cost for it indicated with sacrifice of a precious life of an innocent animal of perfect breed, for which there should be awareness, and foreshadowing the effective sacrifice of Christ, was lost when it shouldn't be. This does not show they are without spirit. It is shown that animals are with a spirit. The vision for the future of animals on God's holy mountain without any harm or killing shows this with the relief creation groans for finally coming. It is horrible what is done to billions and billions of animals for humanity going on all the time. If we think there is no future of life with peace and tranquility for them, and would still have it go on, with our choices involving that, we are worse, we would be monsters with that. We have no realistic basis to claim moral superiority.

We as humans are sinful and need salvation from sin, animals are innocent, many suffering for us and what we do. God is showing care for animals.

 

[Rigatoni]

Just recently found out about the Maned Wolf - a very unique breed of wolf, which appears much like a fox at first glance.

 

[sunshineforJesus]

I love animal shows especially animal rescue ones.

 

[LadyOfMystery]

This is my handsome boy Rascal. Does anyone else have any pets? I'd love to see them!

 

[LadyOfMystery]

Soooo this little bit of a gem popped up on my pinterest. lol

 

[LadyOfMystery]

This is Rascal, he's my 10 (soon to be 11 in Nov!) year old adopted Boxer/Great Dane mix. My Dad in 2009 randomly saw him at the vet (when taking our other two dogs for a check up) in a dog pen and the nurses said he was a week away from being put down because they just couldn't rehome him (they had tried twice).

He called us saying he was a "beagle mix" lol What he got home with was a mini horse who didn't come into the house for 2 hrs cause he kept running around our backyard, lol.

Anyway he's been a very interesting dog, we've had a lot of ups and downs with him but overall he's been a great dog and he's a great photography model

Also he use to have a Twitter and FB but he always forgets to update them.

 

[TLSITD]

My favorite animals (in no particular order):

Ravens and crows

Cats

Rats

Racoons

Foxes

Bats

Octupi

Cardinals

I'm an animal lover in general, but those are my favorites; some for their intelligence and personality, others for their uniqueness.

I've owned a wide variety of pets in my life---most recently a one-eyed Himalayan Persian named Wink, who I adopted as a stray from a veterinary hospital I used to work at. He lived to the ripe old age of 17 or 18 (we didn't know his exact age), and was very much loved and spoiled.

 

[LadyOfMystery]

I seriously want a Golden Retriever. They're such floof balls and I love them. lol

Does anyone have one??

 

[EyesOfKohl]

I would really like to get some birds later... I adore green birds, especially parrots <3

 

[JustSomeBloke]

 

[LadyOfMystery]

I would really like to get some birds later... I adore green birds, especially parrots <3

So pretty! I wouldn't mind having a bird at some point. They are very smart that's for sure.

Awww So cuteee!

 

[JustSomeBloke]