The Adam and Eve are in devorce, so it is time to revise the Methodology of Science

[joinfree]

How is it nonsense?

There are no nations, that are without religion. Thus, the humankind votes for theism.

 

[AirPo]

There are no nations, that are without religion. Thus, the absolute majority votes for theism.

That doesn't prove anything.

 

[joinfree]

That doesn't prove anything.

you wish. LOL

 

[AirPo]

you wish. LOL

I know.

 

[Aman777]

You do realise we can make the same claims about God and the Bible, right?

What you have just revealed is that you have no idea what Genesis teaches. Admit it and do a little study and then come back. God's Truth shows that He hid His scientific Truth in Genesis more than 3k years ago, UNLESS you can show us He didn't. God's Truth agrees in every way with every recent discovery of Science, in the last days.

 

[Bungle_Bear]

What you have just revealed is that you have no idea what Genesis teaches.

Oh, the irony!

God's Truth shows that He hid His scientific Truth in Genesis more than 3k years ago, UNLESS you can show us He didn't.

I don't have to show that God didn't do something, you need to show that he did. Bare assertions are not enough.

God's Truth agrees in every way with every recent discovery of Science, in the last days.

If that's the case why do you deny so many of those discoveries?

 

[Aman777]

If that's the case why do you deny so many of those discoveries?

I don't deny ANY scientific discovery. I deny the false assumptions of the ToE which is NOT Science but instead a matter of blind faith.

 

[joinfree]

I know.

Genesis 3:5 "For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

 

[joinfree]

What you have just revealed is that you have no idea what Genesis teaches. Admit it and do a little study and then come back. God's Truth shows that He hid His scientific Truth in Genesis more than 3k years ago, UNLESS you can show us He didn't. God's Truth agrees in every way with every recent discovery of Science, in the last days.

Do not pay attention to atheistic trolling. Atheism is not proven. Theism is proven. Any proof is the knowledge of God's mind. Thus, the God MUST be proven.
Look: atheists say, that absence of the God is not proven, and the presence of the God is not proven. But that is not possible, because it denies knowledge origin. We know at least, that 2+2 is 4. Therefore, atheists MUST BE WRONG. If atheism is WRONG, then THEISM is in RIGHT.

 

[joinfree]

I don't have to show that God didn't do something, you need to show that he did.

I smell laziness! LOL.

 

[AirPo]

Genesis 3:5 "For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."

Which doesn't prove anything. See, I said I know.

 

[joinfree]

Which doesn't prove anything. See, I said I know.

Take that! You are nothing without Creator! Without the miracle the nothing produces nothing. Into your face:

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I don't deny ANY scientific discovery. I deny the false assumptions of the ToE which is NOT Science but instead a matter of blind faith.

Ignoring the obvious falsehoods and dishonesty in that statement, allow me to point out that you aren't just denying ToE. You're denying any scientific discovery which supports ToE, paleontology, archaeology, biblical scholarship, development of agriculture, beginnings of civilisation etc

 

[Bungle_Bear]

I smell laziness! LOL.

So do I, but unfortunately you're the only one who can do anything about the way you smell

 

[joinfree]

Ignoring the obvious falsehoods and dishonesty

What if atheism were absolute honest? Then instead of "God is dead" they would be saying "Nihilists are saying, that God is dead. But Nihilism is a lie, because denies the Existence of Absolute Truth.", instead of "There is no God" they would be saying "Atheists are saying, that there is no God. But that is not proven to them. They do not know that, and do not want to find out while hiding behind Burden of Proof."
Instead of "there is no evidence for God", they would be saying "There are proofs of God and evidences, and testimonies, and wonders. But atheists say, that any single evidence the theists present them is disproven. But proofs of God are not disproven to theists: theists know their God."

 

[Bungle_Bear]

What if atheism were absolute honest? Then instead of "God is dead" they would be saying "Nihilists are saying, that God is dead. But Nihilism is a lie, because denies the Existence of Absolute Truth.", instead of "There is no God" they would be saying "Atheists are saying, that there is no God. But that is not proven to them. They do not know that, and do not want to find out while hiding behind Burden of Proof."
Instead of "there is no evidence for God", they would be saying "There are proofs of God and evidences, and testimonies, and wonders. But atheists say, that any single evidence the theists present them is disproven. But proofs of God are not disproven to theists: theists know their God."

That has absolutely nothing to do with the post to which you are responding.

 

[joinfree]

That has absolutely nothing to do with the post to which you are responding.

O, you do like Nothing. From nothing the nothing comes.

 

[AirPo]

O, you do like Nothing. From nothing the nothing comes.

Which sums up this thread nicely.

 

[DogmaHunter]

My God can not be idol, because He is not disproven.

Then there are no idol gods, because no god has ever been disproven. Because you can't disprove unfalsifiable claims. That's kind of what makes them unfalsifiable

The point. You're missing it.

Presumption of Existence is not Factual Existence and not the Assumption of Existence.​

Que?
You either believe something exists or you do not.
You either answer "yes" to the question "do you believe X exists?" or you don't.

It's pretty binary.

But my God is proven to exist

No, he's not. Gods are defined as unfalsifiable and pretty much undetectable. That makes it impossible to prove or disprove them.

The trolls use Presumption of Non-existence: ``if the thing is not proven, it is like if it does not exist'', it is the ``Burden of Proof''.

You think that the concept of the burden of proof, is like trolling?????

LOL!!

Ow my, this just keeps getting weirder and weirder.

But I use Presumption of Existence and Presumption of Innocence and Presumption of

Righteousness: ``until one would become disproven, he is treated as if he is in right''.

So I guess that you should then believe that alien abductees in fact were abducted by aliens and have been anally probed.

I guess that also means that you also believe that Tom Cruise, being an Operating Thetan, has come into contact with his inner Thetan and is now thus technically able to manipulate space and time with his mind.

I guess that also means that you also believe that islamic suicide bombers are now in paradise feasting in their own personal golden palace with 72 virgins.

You didn't think this nonsense through at all, did you?

 

[DogmaHunter]

Your word against my word.

The action of "proving", is not a matter of words.

The point exactly.
All you have are words.