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Claiming that you refuted something, does not make it so.
it's ridiculous.
The 315k is not the consensus scientists think the first fully human lived. The date is some 195,000 years ago. Scientists making this dating did not know the difference between the sons of God (prehistoric people) and Humans (descendants of Adam) This ignorance is caused by their inability to understand Genesis.
Not so, unless you can show us another Ark which brought Humans with the superior intelligence of God Genesis 3:22 to this planet. What it proves is that mindless Nature does NOT magically insert God's superior intelligence into Apes. Prove me wrong and have a kitty cat call me.
Kind like classifying rocks and sticks as "tools". The traits of modern Humans are farming, building, smelting, etc which happened on Adam's Earth long before those traits appeared on the present Earth. Read Genesis 4. Animals don't farm, build cities, nor smelt. Never have, Never will. Only Humans do and they arrived in the Ark 11,000 years ago in the mountains of Ararat. That's God's Truth
So, you're claiming that there are no instances of farming, building etc, older then 11k years ago?
Will you double down on that falsehood as well?
What is ridiculous is the Fact that NO evolutionist can explain the process by which mindless Nature installed God's superior intelligence into Apes. Can you?
Mutate, survive, reproduce, repeat.
You got it, but scientists seeking grants don't count. Why do you think they call Mesopotamia the Cradle of Civilization on this Earth? Could it be because farming, city building and other traits of modern Humans were first shown there? Of course it is.
Wiki:>>Mesopotamia is the site of the earliest developments of the Neolithic Revolution from around 10,000 BC. It has been identified as having "inspired some of the most important developments in human history including the invention of the wheel, the planting of the first cereal crops and the development of cursive script, mathematics, astronomy and agriculture".[2]
Now tell us HOW mindless Nature installed the highest form of intelligence into Apes since the ONLY way to change an Ape's brain internally, is through inheritance.
Tell us of this magical ability of Nature
to produce God's superior intelligence in Apes
Genesis 3:22 which changes them into the descendants of Adam. You cannot. God told us in Genesis. Want to see?
Classifying carefully processed and adapted rocks and sticks as "tools"... that what archeologists have become very good at over time.Kind like classifying rocks and sticks as "tools". The traits of modern Humans are farming, building, smelting, etc which happened on Adam's Earth long before those traits appeared on the present Earth. Read Genesis 4. Animals don't farm, build cities, nor smelt. Never have, Never will. Only Humans do and they arrived in the Ark 11,000 years ago in the mountains of Ararat. That's God's Truth
See... this is what happens when you don't listen to what "all of history and science" says, and keep to your own imagination (or don't stay up to date in science.)First evidence of farming in Mideast 23,000 years ago: Evidence of earliest small-scale agricultural cultivation
First evidence of farming in Mideast 23,000 years ago
Evidence of earliest small-scale agricultural cultivation
First evidence of farming in Mideast 23,000 years ago: Evidence of earliest small-scale agricultural cultivation
First evidence of farming in Mideast 23,000 years ago
Evidence of earliest small-scale agricultural cultivation
Caves of Greece: Theopetra Cave
In 2010 an important discovery was made in this cave, a wall which was built 23,000 years ago, which means it is the oldest known human-built structure so far.
OEPS!
Classifying carefully processed and adapted rocks and sticks as "tools"... that what archeologists have become very good at over time.
But it is interesting that you lament how those "animals" that lived on earth did not "plant" for the millions of years they lived on earth.
Well... true. They didn't plant crops. But they raised livestock, for several thousand years before your "descendants of Adam" alledgedly came to Earth in your story. Animals don't do that, right?
They used elaborate tools tens of thousands of years before your "descendants of Adam". Animals don't do that. They created paintings, left evidence of rituals, of culture, tens of thousands of years earlier than your "descendants of Adam." Animals don't do that.
No, only humans do that.
But humans "farm, build cities and smelt. Things that they already did on Adam's Earth "long before those traits appeared on the present Earth".
So it is quite strange that things like "smelting metal" did not appear on this earth several thousand years after these super-intelligent humans came to this earth and started to build cities.
Yeah, how "primitive". Well, I don't know about Chimps - who indeed use sticks as tools - but I would like to see you, with your superior intelligence to produce one of these ancient stone tools.I've been to the Smithsonian and I've see photos of these "tools". It's common with Chimps who fish for termites and it's evidence of animal intelligence.
Which, of course, is not based on the biblical text. Which doesn't make any statement about the existence, origin or intelligence level of (other) humans.The first Human farming on this Earth was in Mesopotamia. Noah planted some grapes, got drunk and naked and thus PROVED himself to be a Human. The sons of God (prehistoric people) were more intelligent than Apes BUT did not inherit the superior intelligence of Adam Genesis 3:22 until they produced offspring with a Human who was identical to themselves AFTER the fall. Today's Humans are the result. Genesis 6:3
"Today's science" classifies modern human as having been around for at least 300,000 years. But I guess only science that agrees with you is "real science", right?False, since the sons of God (prehistoric people) did those things but they were NOT Humans as today's science has classified them.
How convenient. Everything that supports your postion is accepted... everything that disagrees is simply forgotten.Why? Humankind had to start all over again after Adam's world was destroyed. Noah obviously didn't bring a smelter with him. Amen?
Which, of course, is not based on the biblical text. Which doesn't make any statement about the existence, origin or intelligence level of (other) humans.
"Today's science" classifies modern human as having been around for at least 300,000 years. But I guess only science that agrees with you is "real science", right?
How convenient. Everything that supports your postion is accepted... everything that disagrees is simply forgotten.
Superior intelligence. Sorry, I can't stop laughing. I said it several times before: it is amazing what a low opinion some Christians have about their supreme deity... and each time you type something, you only comfirm it.
I'd say you are getting desperate.Amen, since Genesis doesn't tell atheists, agnostics and phonies anything since they view it as "foolishness". 1Co 2:14 Did you notice the light blue link? Look back at what you claimed "is not based on the biblical text" and follow the light blue links. This will help you with your false accusations against others. I will be happy to explain the verses to you since you won't be able to understand.
Well, History also records the FIRST Human powered flight in North Carolina. That doesn't mean that there weren't any "Humans" around before that, who did other stuff.No, since History records the FIRST Human farming in Northern Mesopotamia, the land between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, the Cradle of Human Civilization on this planet. It's in the valleys sw of Lake Van, Turkey, where the Ark arrived.
And there it is again... you claim to have the agreement of "Scripture science and history"... but as soon as you are shown that neither science nor scripture nor history agree with you, you retreat into baseless accusations.False accusation since I support what I write with the agreement of Scripture science and history. You can't do that by insisting that your half/truth is all there is.
So this "superior intelligence" does ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY influence the ability to judge between good and evil? In every other regard, it is on the very same level as the "animal intelligence"?You're confused. Humans (descendants of Adam) have inherited Adam's superior intelligence which is like God's. Genesis 3:22 Only God and Humans have the ability to judge between good and evil. It's because Humans are destined to have dominion or rule over every other living creature after Jesus returns. Genesis 1:28 Angels are included. 1Co 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels?
See, what you wrote isn't based on the biblical texts. It is not that we need some kind of magic prophet stones to read them... they are there, freely accessable for each of us. And even if, for some "spiritual" reason, we don't understand them correctly... it is still quite easy to see what they say and what they don't say.
Well, History also records the FIRST Human powered flight in North Carolina. That doesn't mean that there weren't any "Humans" around before that, who did other stuff.
Yes, I see what you do here. You make up your own stories and try to defuse any potential criticism with "you don't understand because you don't use my holy decoder ring".Unbelievers cannot understand Scripture because they cannot understand what God the Holy Spirit wrote, 1Co 2:14 unless He's inside them and unless they live in the last days of this Earth. Daniel 12:4 A good example is the Scriptural Fact that God made one Heaven on the 2nd Day Genesis 1:8 and Lord God/Jesus made other Heavens/Universes on the 3rd Day Genesis 2:4. See?
So what you write is "in agreement with science"... except when it isn't, and then science is wrong.Current Science claims that Humans diverged from Chimps 6 million years ago, but that is impossible since Humans (descendants of Adam) arrived on planet Earth only 11k years ago. History records the FIRST HUMAN farming, city building, and every other trait of modern Humans originated in the Cradle of Civilization, Mesopotamia. That's the land between the mouth of the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers, in the valleys just SW of Lake Van, Turkey in the mountains of Ararat, where Noah's Ark arrived.
Say, what do you do when you are faced with believers, who tell you that there is no way that humans landed on Earth 11,000 years ago, because the world is only 6000 years old, and that Noah's flood happened only 4000 years ago? They obviously don't have your exclusive version of the Holy Spirit, right?
You have nothing. Not history, not science, not scripture. Just bluster.
A new tourist attraction where the paws of ancient Apes scruffed up the ground and weeds grew. Oh boy. Looks like Human fishermen to me OR some hungry fish eating Ape? Limestone Caves with walls can be found for millions of years into the past. After the "discovery" the cave closed. Not enough tourists, I suspect.
But they also defend their view - which is incompatible with yours - with Scripture and Science and History. Just as I refute your views with this same Scripture and Science and History.No, since Christians are saved by Faith from God the Father. I tell them the same thing I tell you and they accept me because they can see that I support my view with Scripture, the same Scripture they have believed in order to become a Christian. My brothers and sisters in Christ are my friends and can see that I am one of them.
If you think you get divine brownie points for being wrong - which is the reason people disagree with you here - well, I will just add that to the list of inconsistencies in Christian's beliefs.Thanks for another Atheistic opinion. My opponents on this planet don't realize that they are laying up Treasure for me in Heaven, so thanks ahead of time for disagreeing with me and God. I can hardly wait to harvest the good you have bestowed upon me. God bless you
But they also defend their view - which is incompatible with yours - with Scripture and Science and History. Just as I refute your views with this same Scripture and Science and History.
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