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Worship has never required a supernatural being.
I can agree with the definition of atheism being the non-belief in any supernatural power or being, but that is different than a non-belief in a god...which is humanly impossible.
Everyone has a god or gods.
First Part - Matter and Mind
Second Part - Meaning
then you are lying to yourself...all one has to do is follow your money trail to find the god on the other end.
then you are lying to yourself...all one has to do is follow your money trail to find the god on the other end.
Nah, not buying this.
Every Christian who makes this trite little claim is operating on a double standard.
I don't actively worship anything. I remember what it was like to worship God - nothing feels close to that anymore, because I don't worship anything.
Now, somehow not actively worshipping (let's say) money, apparently makes me a money-worshipper.
But none of these Christians making this daft statement treat would ever consider that not actively worshipping Christ makes them a Christ-worshipper.
When that changes, maybe I'll consider that your claim has any validity at all.
How on earth are you lying to yourself if you don't have a God?
Are you so closed minded to not even be aware that there are people who genuinely reject the idea that your God exists?
It is not money I am talking about but what one is spending it on. Christians, including myself, are just as guilty of this.
Where does God rank in my checkbook? It isn't the first thing I take out every week.
Fundy redefinition and false equivocation project?Worship has never required a supernatural being.
I can agree with the definition of atheism being the non-belief in any supernatural power or being, but that is different than a non-belief in a god...which is humanly impossible.
Everyone has a god or gods.
That's nice. Doesn't address my point. Christians operate on a double standard because they treat not actively worshipping something (except Christ) as worshipping that something.
you missed the point...I am not talking about God, I am talking about the arrangement of the importance of objects/people in one's life signifies that which one worships.
What is the most important thing in you life? It is not what you say it is, it is what you spend the most money/time on.
That is one's god.
Ok, I see what you're trying to get at.... However, I still disagree with you.
Just because things are meaningful or important to you does not mean you "worship" them. Likewise, using the title "God" for that thing isn't really a valid descriptor.
And what on earth do you mean "it's not what I say it is"? If we're talking about what I spend the most time and money on, I actually nailed it perfectly with the first thought that popped into my head.... Still, I don't consider that thing "my God". It's just simply not a good description.
You would not consider someone who did not actively worship Christ to worship Christ, would you not?
I personally do not believe that atheism does justice to our awesome universe, nor does it do justice to us as humans.
However, this belief was not my primary impetus in starting this thread. My primary impetus was the desire to make known the not so obvious implications of atheism and how many (not all) of those who are nontheists live, think, and act in contradiction to their position of the lack of belief in gods or God.
Ok, I see what you're trying to get at.... However, I still disagree with you.
Just because things are meaningful or important to you does not mean you "worship" them. Likewise, using the title "God" for that thing isn't really a valid descriptor.
And what on earth do you mean "it's not what I say it is"? If we're talking about what I spend the most time and money on, I actually nailed it perfectly with the first thought that popped into my head.... Still, I don't consider that thing "my God". It's just simply not a good description.
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