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How is that logical? That's due to homophobia, not homosexuality.I could also use evidence which points to higher suicide rates among homosexual teens than heterosexual teens. Etc. etc.
Then why did you use the third person?Yes, exactly my point.
Then why did you use the third person?
Ah.Just trying to point out his hypocrisy in simultaneously calling for a stop to and participating in off topic posting in his threads. Call it dramatic irony, if I remember high school english correctly (and I'm pretty sure I don't).
You're correct, but I don't see why this means that it's immoral to consent to having something stuck up there.the fact that the human anus is a member of one's digestive system and not their reproductive system etc.
I disagree with every single argument that you made.None of this appeals in any way to any religion, but rather, the cold hard facts and is undeniable.
How is that logical? That's due to homophobia, not homosexuality.
This. Of course the suicide rate is higher for LGBT individuals. Do you have any idea what the average LGBT person goes through on a daily basis?Or did you mean to say that homosexual teens kill themselves because of other people being homophobic?
You're correct, but I don't see why this means that it's immoral to consent to having something stuck up there.
I disagree with every single argument that you made.
This. Of course the suicide rate is higher for LGBT individuals. Do you have any idea what the average openly LGBT person goes through on a daily basis?
Just trying to point out his hypocrisy in simultaneously calling for a stop to and participating in off topic posting in his threads. Call it dramatic irony, if I remember high school english correctly (and I'm pretty sure I don't).
If they don't share your view of bodily respect, then yes, they would disagree with you.If you have no respect for your body, then you would'nt see it as immoral or wrong in the first place.
If they don't share your view of bodily respect, then yes, they would disagree with you.
It is possible to stick a penis up there without causing damage, by the way.
And this argument only applies to penetrative sex between males.
As I stated earlier, one of the definite drawbacks of philosophical naturalism is that under such a view, humans are nothing more than advanced primates, i.e. animals with no intrinsic value or worth. As one scientist stated, we are simply accidental collocations of atoms.
Under this view, we are simply fleshy bags of bone, blood, and bile and water and ultimately it does not really matter what you do to your body because one day everybody will die when our solar system's environment becomes to hostile to support life.
So accordingly, it does not matter what one does to one's body on this view, it is all ultimately meaningless anyway.
This is your response to me saying that it's possible to do it WITHOUT causing damage? Though I basically do hold the view that you describe here, I don't see how my statement supports it.As I stated earlier, one of the definite drawbacks of philosophical naturalism is that under such a view, humans are nothing more than advanced primates, i.e. animals with no intrinsic value or worth. As one scientist stated, we are simply accidental collocations of atoms.
Under this view, we are simply fleshy bags of bone, blood, and bile and water and ultimately it does not really matter what you do to your body because one day everybody will die when our solar system's environment becomes to hostile to support life.
So accordingly, it does not matter what one does to one's body on this view, it is all ultimately meaningless anyway.
Only to those who need a god to dictate to them what meaning is.
And as others have said - when all else fails, preach.
This is your response to me saying that it's possible to do it WITHOUT causing damage? Though I basically do hold the view that you describe here, I don't see how my statement supports it.
I find it interesting that lesbian sex is apparently closer to being moral that sex between men.
Actually, we recognize that the meaning we give to our lives is subjective. We feel that religious people are the ones doing what you described.Now, do people think that they can create meaning for their lives? Of course they do. My point is that this meaning is ultimately only illusory, for actually, under naturalism, the cosmos is indifferent.
In fact, the atheist who seeks to create meaning in his/her life is only participating in an exercise of self-deception and wishful thinking. Why? Because as I said, there really is no meaning, no ultimate purpose that exists beyond themselves. There is no reality with which their manufactured meaning corresponds to.
Yes, but you were trying to give reasons why homosexual activity is objectively wrong, regardless of Christianity.They are both immoral. At least under Christianity they are.
If you will notice, I used the word "ultimate". There is no "ultimate" meaning. This follows necessarily from naturalism.
Now, do people think that they can create meaning for their lives? Of course they do. My point is that this meaning is ultimately only illusory, for actually, under naturalism, the cosmos is indifferent.
In fact, the atheist who seeks to create meaning in his/her life is only participating in an exercise of self-deception and wishful thinking. Why? Because as I said, there really is no meaning, no ultimate purpose that exists beyond themselves. There is no reality with which their manufactured meaning corresponds to.
Actually, we recognize that the meaning we give to our lives is subjective. We feel that religious people are the ones doing what you described.
Why do I have to demonstrate it? I have my beliefs and you have yours. I'm fine with that, though your baiting tactics are quite amusing.You would have to demonstrate why you are right and the religious are wrong.
Can you do that?
Are you up to that challenge?
Except for....erm....reality
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