The 6 Days of Creation: Not neccesarily 24 hours.

[Usus Vox Tractus]

Genesis: Days, or Ages? | Evidence To Believe




The Hebrew word for “day” is “Yom”, and is used in Hebrew, as in English, to mean several things:

• Sunrise to sunset (12 hour period)
• Sunset to sunset (24 hour period)
• A segment of time without any reference to solar days (could be weeks, years, or an age or epoch)

Other examples in scripture of the same word Day or “Yom”, Where the Same Word is Intended to Mean a Period of Time

• Genesis 4:3: “And in the process of time [word used is "Yom"] it came to pass…”
• Genesis 30:14: “Now Reuben went in the days [Yom] of wheat harvest…”
• Joshua 24:7: “..Then you dwelt in the wilderness a [word used is "Yom"] long time.”
• Isaiah 11:10-11: “And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people,..”

Day can also means realm or separate space. There are places in the bible where space is used to measure time.

Rev 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour (KJV)

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And when he opened the seventh seal, there was stillness in Heaven for about half an hour.


A stillness, a rest...




More to come.

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

Another interesting heptadic harmony is a set of 7 equal sized spheres. 6 fit perfectly around a central "at rest" 7th sphere. A property of Pi.

 

[Tinker Grey]

Cool story, bro.

Where's the evidence?

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

Cool story, bro.

Where's the evidence?

Evidence that the universe is composed of 6 nested "days" or "realms" or "bends of time-space"?

In string theory, our experience of 4d space-time is found to be composed of (dependent on) 6 "compacted" strings for a total of 10 strings.


Not quite how I've found it to be, but it's an understandable mistake of perspective without a proper frame of reference.




On a side note, are you familiar with the Tzimtzum or the Kalachakra teachings?

 

[znr]

I just can't buy a 24 hour 6 day creation, and there is no reason to buy it. It boils down to whether we bear fruit, not whether it's 6 days or ages. I used to get tripped up on these debates, but not anymore. 6 days...lol. Anyway.

 

[BL2KTN]

Well, you'd better hope yom means about 24 hours since plants are made one day before the sun.

 

[prov1810]

Genesis: Days, or Ages? | Evidence To Believe




The Hebrew word for “day” is “Yom”, and is used in Hebrew, as in English, to mean several things:

• Sunrise to sunset (12 hour period)
• Sunset to sunset (24 hour period)
• A segment of time without any reference to solar days (could be weeks, years, or an age or epoch)

Other examples in scripture of the same word Day or “Yom”, Where the Same Word is Intended to Mean a Period of Time

• Genesis 4:3: “And in the process of time [word used is "Yom"] it came to pass…”
• Genesis 30:14: “Now Reuben went in the days [Yom] of wheat harvest…”
• Joshua 24:7: “..Then you dwelt in the wilderness a [word used is "Yom"] long time.”
• Isaiah 11:10-11: “And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] the Lord shall set his hand again the second time to recover the remnant of his people,..”

Day can also means realm or separate space. There are places in the bible where space is used to measure time.

Rev 8:1 And when he had opened the seventh seal, there was silence in heaven about the space of half an hour (KJV)

Aramaic Bible in Plain English
And when he opened the seventh seal, there was stillness in Heaven for about half an hour.


A stillness, a rest...




More to come.

Yes, "day" can mean an indefinite period of time, as when an old-timer says "In my day, ___" to refer to an indefinite time in the past. But he wouldn't say, "In my day, ___, and there were six of those days." Every time the Bible uses the word "day" with an ordinal number, the days are always literal, consecutive days.

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

Well, you'd better hope yom means about 24 hours since plants are made one day before the sun.

Well I don't think the "day" was a literal 24 hour day, so I don't think plants were literal plants. I think they are galactic cores precipitated "downwards" from larger wave forms like an "overspill". You are seeing the trunk (core) and the branches (spiral arms, stars), but the roots are hidden in dark matter.

 

[BobRyan]

Genesis: Days, or Ages? | Evidence To Believe




The Hebrew word for “day” is “Yom”, and is used in Hebrew, as in English, to mean several things:

• Sunrise to sunset (12 hour period)
• Sunset to sunset (24 hour period)
• A segment of time without any reference to solar days (could be weeks, years, or an age or epoch)

it is one solar day in Genesis 1 for each day listed in the historic account given - and we know this from legal code itself - in Ex 20:11 the context is the weekly cycle and the meaning is obvious as the Gen 1:2 - 2:3 historic account is cited in legal code for president.


in Christ,


Bob

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

I just can't buy a 24 hour 6 day creation, and there is no reason to buy it. It boils down to whether we bear fruit, not whether it's 6 days or ages. I used to get tripped up on these debates, but not anymore. 6 days...lol. Anyway.

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

it is one solar day in Genesis 1 for each day listed in the historic account given - and we know this from legal code itself - in Ex 20:11 the context is the weekly cycle and the meaning is obvious as the Gen 1:2 - 2:3 historic account is cited in legal code for president.


in Christ,


Bob

Well if you want to get technical, the "days" of the Genesis creation account are from an evening to a morning, "one day".

It is literally describing a falling and rising of light.

The first day is not "first day", it is "one day". Each subsequent day is "one day" overlapping the previous.

Everything about the first days of creation is about setting boundary conditions....about establishing ordered spaces, by a falling and rising of light structure.


In this sense, the amount of elapsed time is completely irrelevant and unnecessary.

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

Fun fact: The universe can only support 3 density levels of quarks for the formation of atoms. The "big bang" should have created equal amounts of antimatter. The reason why our cosmos is seemingly made primarily of the lightest type of matter is one of the biggest mysteries of modern science.

If the big bang was in fact a prismatic contraction, then I would expect there to be separation of the frequency densities. There would be 5 other realms in the universe for a total of 6. (3 of matter, 3 of antimatter.)

This is 2% away from modern dark matter vs matter ratios. The source of anomalous galactic and poly-galactic rotation.



Interestingly; the Kalachakra Teachings, the highest revealed in Buddhism, map 6 internal universal realms in which a soul can incarnate. Some are heavenly and some are hellish, all are temporary.

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

Wrote this in another thread but it belongs here:


What is "real"? The atoms that you and I are made of are the lightest of 3 density levels the universe can sustain. And even they are 99.999999% empty space as atoms.

There are 2 heavier types, we interact with and collect both. The 2nd heavier matter type we collect we call "emotions", the "3rd" we call "presence of mind".

Denser, more compact substances always passes/cuts through lighter, less compact substance.

Presence of mind overcome emotional inertia, emotional inertia overcomes physical matter.


The reason why people have "buttons" that can be pushed is because they've collected "dark matter" that can be destabilized into movement....often by a single stark remark by those with presence of mind, unimpressed by collections of physical matter or showy exteriors.


The entire physical cosmos is directly over lapped by 2 other space time fields and entangled with 3 others. We are in the "gathered earth" realm, around us is the "waters" it was gathered from.

There is a "hammered out plate" (firmament) between the 3 lower matter "Days" (bends of space-time) in the universe and the 3 upper antimatter space-time bends.

The 6 nested bends of space time appear as wheels within wheels.

 

[BL2KTN]

Well I don't think the "day" was a literal 24 hour day, so I don't think plants were literal plants. I think they are galactic cores precipitated "downwards" from larger wave forms like an "overspill". You are seeing the trunk (core) and the branches (spiral arms, stars), but the roots are hidden in dark matter.

Well sucks for literal plants, since that leaves them off the whole creation list.

 

[DogmaHunter]

Here's a question....

I have observed more time then I can count that christians do exactly as you do... "reinterpret" the biblical texts till a point where the "new meaning" would never be understood by any blank slate reading the original texts.

And at every turn, the "reinterpretation" happens whenever science makes a new discovery or comes up with a new theory back with so much evidence that it can no longer be denied while staying rational.

Considering all this, why would you keep going back to the bible? If you are going to let science guide the way anyway, why must you return to your bronze-age texts to reverse match it with whatever the current scientific understanding is? Why not simply skip this bronze-age story all together and just stick to the science?

On any other subject, you would simply discard your previously held beliefs when science turns around and proves them wrong (or proves something else to be more accurate). Why do you give this special status to religious beliefs?
Why must you "re-evaluate" the same text over and over and over again to make it reverse match with what the science states?

Do you understand that to an outsider, like me, this reeks of desperation of wanting to have your religion be true? It reminds me of a parent that is absolutely convinced that their children are angels and no matter how many evidence you throw at them that they are actually an annoying criminal gang, those parents will keep coming back with excuses on how their children were either "tricked" into acting like that or simply deny that they did. As if they couldn't do anything wrong even when they tried.

It's called "denial".

 

[bhsmte]

Evidence that the universe is composed of 6 nested "days" or "realms" or "bends of time-space"?

In string theory, our experience of 4d space-time is found to be composed of (dependent on) 6 "compacted" strings for a total of 10 strings.


Not quite how I've found it to be, but it's an understandable mistake of perspective without a proper frame of reference.




On a side note, are you familiar with the Tzimtzum or the Kalachakra teachings?

Teachings are a dime a dozen, where is the objective evidence?

 

[Gottservant]

If the Earth is barely spinning, a day could be thousands of years. (selah)

 

[BL2KTN]

If the Earth is barely spinning, a day could be thousands of years. (selah)

Nighttime is going to be pretty cold if it lasts a thousand years.

 

[BobRyan]

Originally Posted by Usus Vox Tractus

Genesis: Days, or Ages? | Evidence To Believe




The Hebrew word for “day” is “Yom”, and is used in Hebrew, as in English, to mean several things:

• Sunrise to sunset (12 hour period)
• Sunset to sunset (24 hour period)
• A segment of time without any reference to solar days (could be weeks, years, or an age or epoch)

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it is one solar day in Genesis 1 for each day listed in the historic account given - and we know this from legal code itself - in Ex 20:11 the context is the weekly cycle and the meaning is obvious as the Gen 1:2 - 2:3 historic account is cited in legal code for president.

Well if you want to get technical, the "days" of the Genesis creation account are from an evening to a morning, "one day".

Indeed and "legal Code" from God Himself calls it a day in Ex 20 ... not just in Genesis 1.

To do that you have to have a rotating planet and a single-side light source.

In this sense, the amount of elapsed time is completely irrelevant and unnecessary.

just not in the actual Bible since legal code itself requires the time element for it not only comments on it as fact - but it requires duplication of that same time cycle as an act of obedience.

Ex 20
8 “Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is a sabbath of the Lord your God; in it you shall not do any work, you or your son or your daughter, your male or your female servant or your cattle or your sojourner who stays with you. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day; therefore the Lord blessed the sabbath day and made it holy.

It is impossible to escape the weekly cycle - literally given by literal God to literal mankind and outlined in Ex 20 in legal code impossible to miss.

And that Ex 20:11 legal code summarizes the 6 days of Genesis 1 as 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea and all that is in them, and rested on the seventh day;

Your post simply tries to take the least detail from the text as all you will accept - while ignoring the details that God placed in legal code in His own summary of the historic event - in the account given in Genesis 1.

You eisegete your view into Genesis 1 hoping to ignore the legal code that debunks it in Ex 20.

in Christ,

Bob

 

[Usus Vox Tractus]

Well sucks for literal plants, since that leaves them off the whole creation list.

The first life forms to take shape out of nebular clouds and onto planets were plant like. They metabolized stellar radiation as a food source. (not much else in space)

It requires an entire galaxy, exploding billions of stars to make a single plant.