If we are talking about us - there is another way. That way is if God tells us emphatically what will happen.I would say that there is only one way that you can know what will happen in the future, and this is if you have total control of what is going to happen
Very easy to answer this question .
If we don't have free will then Nineveh could not repent .
And since Nineveh repent then God could choose to repent aswell and not destroy them .
If we did not have free will God would not be able to repent , because he would just follow his plan , yet we can see multiple times that God himself repent from doing something like in Exodus 32:14.
It's glory of God that he is greater than our free will that he know what we choose before we will choose or even be alive . If God did not know what we choose then he would be limited and we know that this is not the case .
Thank you for your effort to be clear, and courteous about it.In the case of God - I wouldn't go so far as to say that omniscience requires complete control of what will happen.
But since God tells us that all things which happen in this world work together according to His good and perfect will I do agree that He is in perfect control of what will happen.
You said the following. I was merely commenting on what you said.One thing, though > if God is using all things for His good, how can He not be in total control of it all?
I didn't say that God is not in total control of everything.I would say that there is only one way that you can know what will happen in the future, and this is if you have total control of what is going to happen
I fully agree and I never said that God was not in control of everything that happens- whether good or bad.How about Joseph? > Genesis 37-50 < those brothers sold him into slavery, then God used Joseph's horrible situation to save many people's lives. Joseph says it was God . . . not the brothers . . . who sent him to Egypt. What they were willing and intending did not decide anything. This, to me, would support how God is in all-control, even using evil for His good purpose.
I agree. Not only that but He predestined that they make that choice. That is not to say that He in any way did violence to their free will. In fact I denied that Calvinists teach such a thing and supported it in my OP with a quote from their most cherished confession.But yes ones can say, but God knows what each person will do because of that person's nature. And so each person is the one who makes one's choices.
I fully agree.So, our own character can have a lot to do to decide if and how we benefit from how things go.
ough.[/QUOTE]Our nature, as is, is not going to want or really try to make us better. So, in order for us to benefit really well, from how God manages things, we first need how God changes our nature to be creative enough with Him, in order to benefit from and minister His love good of things we go through.
I'm not sure to whom this is addressed.Very easy to answer this question . If we don't have free will then Nineveh could not repent ............
And since Nineveh repent then God could choose to repent as well and not destroy them ................... If we did not have free will God would not be able to repent ...............
It's glory of God that he is greater than our free will that he know what we choose before we will choose or even be alive . If God did not know what we choose then he would be limited and we know that this is not the case .
I have been struggling with issue on whether God ordains sin. How can this be? If he works everything for good, but also controls every action, does he then ordain sin? I am really having a hard time loving God because it doesnt make sense why God would create just so he could control every single thing and have a bunch of people end up in hell for something that was predestined.
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