Thank God for Evolution

[Hespera]

The main reason I post in CF is to clear up the ambiguous nature of some of my language

Post 11 I'm fairly sure be expressed as:

'The hypocrisy of accusing Islam of being so horrible while a person's own (Judeo-Christian) religion is actually even worse is what I was pointing out.'

Re reading it although he quotes Hespera the comment that follows must be a non-sequitur because your post clearly shows a Buddhist symbol,

the first time I read it however it has to be said, I did take the offensive meaning...

I am what my boyfriend calls a "Jack-Buddhist" .

 

[MorkandMindy]

I am what my boyfriend calls a "Jack-Buddhist" .

Jack Kornfield? Buddhism for beginners? That's a lot further on than I am. I spent 10 years on Christianity back when I was a Christian, an hour a day on average, and now don't have time to learn a better one.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

The Bible is not a scientific textbook. It's God's word on how to have a relationship with him.

Hence, the reason I can accept evolution and believe in Jesus as God.

 

[Hespera]

The Bible is not a scientific textbook. It's God's word on how to have a relationship with him.

Hence, the reason I can accept evolution and believe in Jesus as God.

I like that. is there some church that teaches that?

 

[Hespera]

Jack Kornfield? Buddhism for beginners? That's a lot further on than I am. I spent 10 years on Christianity back when I was a Christian, an hour a day on average, and now don't have time to learn a better one.

Its kind of a joke. He is from Utah, and learned the term Jack-Mormon. its nothing derogatory.

Fallen away would be closer to the kind of B'dist I am. Evaporated? Recovering? Never-was-muchofa? I just really dont have any use for religion.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

I like that. is there some church that teaches that?

It's not a list of churches, but this gives a good overview of some major Christian denominations that agree with evolution:

 

[loveiseverywhere]

I like that. is there some church that teaches that?

I'm not sure but there probably is. I was reading this book last night when I came across that statement and it made perfect sense.

Amazon.com: Evidence for Faith 101: Understanding Apologetics in Plain Language (Christianity 101®): Bruce Bickel, Stan Jantz: Bookshttp://www.amazon.com/Evidence-Fait...r_1_11?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1241042448&sr=1-11

 

[MorkandMindy]

The book (Evidence for Faith 101) states IIRC that there is no one single piece of evidence to prove the existence of God but that taken together...

(maybe one or two wrongs don't make a right but ten of them...)

In my first year as a Christian I read 'Mere Christianity' by C. S. Lewis. I never did understand the main point he was trying to make. I also read lots of others: Man Alive, The Great Brain Robbery, Basic Christianity, Know Why You Believe, The Dust of Death, Church History, everything by C. S. Lewis, Dr Martin Lloyd Jones, The Evidence for the Resurrection by J N Anderson and so on.


To cut a long story short; if there was an apologetic that made a valid case instead of being based on one or more fallacies then everyone would know about it and there would be fewer atheists and agnostics in the World.

 

[loveiseverywhere]

I was an atheist for a few years. There wasn't one single thing that made me decide to go back to church, but a lot of little reasons. It finally came down to the fact that I don't feel I have to explain why I follow any given religion to anyone because ultimately I'm the only person responsible for my life and how it turns out.

And I certainly don't take the Bible literally but I do believe in Christ.

 

[atomweaver]

I like that. is there some church that teaches that?

its not cut n dry by denomination. If the question wasn't rhetorical, you coudl find sympathetic churches by a search of the Clergy Letter Project's listings of signatories for a church in your area;

The Clergy Letter Project

main page;
The Clergy Letter Project

I'll also cut n paste the Clergy Letter, because its always worth repeating;

Within the community of Christian believers there are areas of dispute and disagreement, including the proper way to interpret Holy Scripture. While virtually all Christians take the Bible seriously and hold it to be authoritative in matters of faith and practice, the overwhelming majority do not read the Bible literally, as they would a science textbook. Many of the beloved stories found in the Bible – the Creation, Adam and Eve, Noah and the ark – convey timeless truths about God, human beings, and the proper relationship between Creator and creation expressed in the only form capable of transmitting these truths from generation to generation. Religious truth is of a different order from scientific truth. Its purpose is not to convey scientific information but to transform hearts.

We the undersigned, Christian clergy from many different traditions, believe that the timeless truths of the Bible and the discoveries of modern science may comfortably coexist. We believe that the theory of evolution is a foundational scientific truth, one that has stood up to rigorous scrutiny and upon which much of human knowledge and achievement rests. To reject this truth or to treat it as “one theory among others” is to deliberately embrace scientific ignorance and transmit such ignorance to our children. We believe that among God’s good gifts are human minds capable of critical thought and that the failure to fully employ this gift is a rejection of the will of our Creator. To argue that God’s loving plan of salvation for humanity precludes the full employment of the God-given faculty of reason is to attempt to limit God, an act of hubris. We urge school board members to preserve the integrity of the science curriculum by affirming the teaching of the theory of evolution as a core component of human knowledge. We ask that science remain science and that religion remain religion, two very different, but complementary, forms of truth.

11,384 signatories as of 4/30/09...

ETA; Hey, look. There's a Rabbi Letter and a UU Clergy Letter, now, too...

 

[atomweaver]

It's not a list of churches, but this gives a good overview of some major Christian denominations that agree with evolution:

.... We need to amp up the number of H1B visas we're issuing to India and the Pac Rim.

 

[Wiccan_Child]

.... We need to amp up the number of H1B visas we're issuing to India and the Pac Rim.

Haha you damn liberals, always fiddling with the numbers!

 

[MorkandMindy]

...

It finally came down to the fact that I don't feel I have to explain why I follow any given religion to anyone because ultimately I'm the only person responsible for my life and how it turns out.

...

I totally agree, bye

 

[loveiseverywhere]

Yes, I saw that and posted it on my blog here:

The Gospel of Truth

 

[Hespera]

.... We need to amp up the number of H1B visas we're issuing to India and the Pac Rim.

Can you match that graph up with education level?