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Thalidomide

Was Thalidomide once touted as a prenatal wonder drug?

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Researchers at Chemie Grünenthal also found that thalidomide was a particularly effective antiemetic that had an inhibitory effect on morning sickness. Hence, on October 1, 1957, the company launched thalidomide and began aggressively marketing it under the trade name Contergan®.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thalidomide#cite_note-Bombay-51 It was proclaimed a "wonder drug" for insomnia, coughs, colds and headaches.

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Let's consider that some marketing capaign called Thalidomide a wonder drug for a moment, and we'll even let you blame it on some hypothetical scientist. We'll call him/her Dr. Doe.

Now let's consider the claim of an all-powerful miracle worker, who has created the universe, and whose plan cannot be averted. Now lets consider 50 billion infant deaths that have happened due to "natural causes"... or even just the 1 million natural miscarriages that happen to women in the US every year.

So, between God and Dr. Doe, I'd say Dr. Doe has quite a bit of catching up to do in terms of body count. If we're really going to paint one of these fictional characters as being notorious baby killers, I think God takes home the award by an unbeatable long shot.
 
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Let's consider that some marketing capaign called Thalidomide a wonder drug for a moment, and we'll even let you blame it on some hypothetical scientist. We'll call him/her Dr. Doe.

Now let's consider the claim of an all-powerful miracle worker, who has created the universe, and whose plan cannot be averted. Now lets consider 50 billion infant deaths that have happened due to "natural causes"... or even just the 1 million natural miscarriages that happen to women in the US every year.

So, between God and Dr. Doe, I'd say Dr. Doe has quite a bit of catching up to do in terms of body count. If we're really going to paint one of these fictional characters as being notorious baby killers, I think God takes home the award by an unbeatable long shot.
Playing the GOD DID IT card, are we?

Is everyone that falls to their death God's fault, since He created gravity?

Is God responsible for arsons, since He created combustion?

Adam tried that stunt ...

Genesis 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

... and it didn't work.
 
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Playing the GOD DID IT card, are we?
Oh, what doesn't he do?

Is everyone that falls to their death God's fault, since He created gravity?

Is God responsible for arsons, since He created combustion?

Adam tried that stunt ...

Genesis 3:12 And the man said, The woman whom thou gavest to be with me, she gave me of the tree, and I did eat.

... and it didn't work.

I'm talking about babies not even able to walk -- some, not even born yet. Are you saying that these babies killed themselves?

1 in 4 pregnancies in the USA end in miscarriage. These are fetuses that die for no apparent reason...

And before the advents of modern medicine, well over 50 billion children have died through various natural causes. If God's not responsible for these natural deaths, then who is capable of altering his divine plan?

Bring up Thalidomide all you want. Blame science for it. But you'll have to acknowledge God as the most notorious baby killer and abortionist of all time, lest ye be a hypocrite.
 
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Oh, what doesn't he do?



I'm talking about babies not even able to walk -- some, not even born yet. Are you saying that these babies killed themselves?

1 in 4 pregnancies in the USA end in miscarriage. These are fetuses that die for no apparent reason...

And before the advents of modern medicine, well over 50 billion children have died through various natural causes. If God's not responsible for these natural deaths, then who is capable of altering his divine plan?

Bring up Thalidomide all you want. Blame science for it. But you'll have to acknowledge God as the most notorious baby killer and abortionist of all time, lest ye be a hypocrite.
Do you believe that?

If not ... okay if I don't, either?
 
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