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Texas mom kicked off plane for accidentally misgendering flight attendant.

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No, you were kicked off for being rude.
How was it rude? Using an old fashioned term isn’t rude, it’s just language that changes.
 
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It is the Conservative Christians that are actually Woke (with all the boycotts they have done to "cancel" those they don't like)?

You're kidding right? The progressive people are the ones who usually calls for the most cancelling. Just that the woke boycotts usually backfires on them.



 
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You don't understand what cancel culture is. Cancel culture is not boycotting but boycotting can be a part of cancel culture. Cancel culture is far more insidious. It involves targeted harassments of individuals and people associated to the individuals. Like harassing employers, organizations and even family members to disassociate with the targeted individuals. It involves denying the targeting individual rights to function in general society. It involves galvanizing the public to remove the targeted individuals from all forms of social existence.

Like they did to Dylan the Bud Lite spokesperson that was?
Boycott simple means not buying or supporting said individual. Nothing to the extend of blocking the individual from living their lives. There is a big difference. Simply put it is cancel culture is bullying.
Oh, okay - boycott is what I do while cancel culture is what you do, generically speaking.
 
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You're kidding right? The progressive people are the ones who usually calls for the most cancelling. Just that the woke boycotts usually backfires on them.



<Looks at how conservative Christians tried to limit gay access in society>

Progressives, huh?
 
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Also, one thing I'm curious about is if the flight attendant was female or a transgendered individual.
Yep I’m confused on that as well, but then again such confusion is common with this particular subject.
 
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So this is the reality: The airline was in the wrong and some people need to lighten up on others. Even if she accidentally misgendered someone it is not cause for the hyper-sensitive behaviour of the flight attendant. I looked the woman in question, (Jenna Longoria), up and other than some health guru stuff I can't find anything about the woman that is political. I also don't find anything that indicates a homophobic or right-wing/Christian worldview. The audio she captured does seem to confirm her version of events and the airline saying it was the luggage is clearly untrue because they had already loaded it.

If she had been corrected and maliciously kept misgendering the person I'd be a lot more on the airline's side, but that isn't what seems to have happened here.

Look, some people pass better then others and misgendering happens. Most trans people I know are easy going and will politely correct the individual. Nine out of ten times the person will apologize (not that an apology is needed) and be cool about it. One out of ten times you get people like Ceallaigh. I also believe in giving people the benefit of the doubt... she claims no malice and just no knowledge of transgender related issues. Fair enough.

and if it turns out like many times in the past she was kicked off because she couldn't lighten up and when corrected went on a 10 minute rant about trans ruining the world or some other thing? Every time I've seen this, like teacher fired for not properly gendering a kid, they were fired for abuse, teasing, and mocking the kid infront of the class or other situations.
 
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No, you were kicked off for being rude.
I don't think it was rude, I think it was an astute observation which the young lady could find helpful if she so chooses. But I'll tell you what's rude: demanding that others follow your arbitrary rules when you have no authority to make rules, and this is especially true when your rule is so absurd that no reasonable person could possibly logic it out beforehand.
 
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Here is the answer and the solution. Tell the actual truth. Period! No dkim or scam or propaganda or spin. The truth shall set you free. For example, Columbus did NOT discover America and he never claimed this. He discovered some Islands that his sponsors had not known about and claimed them for his sponsors. There were alreadyt many who preceded him only they did not try to conquer and control these people and rape, torture, and murder in the name of the Church.

The Vikings had been here long before him (on the mainland) as were the Olmecs (who had established communities, interbred, and more....and let us not forgete about the Clovis people....see? Sinple truth...
 
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I didn’t think there was anything wrong with that term. Weird.
Try calling a female cop an “officer-ess” and see how that goes. It’s an outdated term that creates an unnecessary distinction between male and female flight attendants who do the exact same job.
 
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I don't think it was rude, I think it was an astute observation which the young lady could find helpful if she so chooses. But I'll tell you what's rude: demanding that others follow your arbitrary rules when you have no authority to make rules, and this is especially true when your rule is so absurd that no reasonable person could possibly logic it out beforehand.
I’m almost certain the airline has a policy of being respectful towards their flight attendants and they absolutely can kick you off the flight for not following that or any other policy of theirs. Misgendering is a pretty clear case of disrespectful behavior. If they caused a scene that further delayed the flight they absolutely should be removed from the plane.
 
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You don't understand what cancel culture is. Cancel culture is not boycotting but boycotting can be a part of cancel culture. Cancel culture is far more insidious. It involves targeted harassments of individuals and people associated to the individuals. Like harassing employers, organizations and even family members to disassociate with the targeted individuals. It involves denying the targeting individual rights to function in general society. It involves galvanizing the public to remove the targeted individuals from all forms of social existence.

Boycott simple means not buying or supporting said individual. Nothing to the extend of blocking the individual from living their lives. There is a big difference. Simply put it is cancel culture is bullying.
I'm glad you said this. I was going to jump in and clarify. Cancel Culture is about actively trying to destroy someone. Have them removed from their livelihoods, their social existence and harassing them into a hole.

Boycotting is simply refusing to buy someone's product or attending a certain function. It's not remotely the sane thing.
 
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Oh, okay - boycott is what I do while cancel culture is what you do, generically speaking.
No it's the opposite. Take the cake guy. Boycotting would simply be refusing to go buy anything from his bakery. Cancel Culture is harassing him, trying to take away his livelihood and using the power of government to punish him and remove him from society. There's a large difference.
 
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I’m almost certain the airline has a policy of being respectful towards their flight attendants and they absolutely can kick you off the flight for not following that or any other policy of theirs. Misgendering is a pretty clear case of disrespectful behavior. If they caused a scene that further delayed the flight they absolutely should be removed from the plane.
The attendant should have have corrected the lady and moved on. Or better yet just ignored it. That's what live and let live should be. Maybe the lady just made an honest mistake. You confront her with it and use a certain tone of voice etc, you are asking for a confrontation. We've seen it in other videos how they can react. Just ignore it and move on. That attendant was not professional and used his position as a power trip.
 
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The attendant should have have corrected the lady and moved on. Or better yet just ignored it. That's what live and let live should be. Maybe the lady just made an honest mistake. You confront her with it and use a certain tone of voice etc, you are asking for a confrontation. We've seen it in other videos how they can react. Just ignore it and move on. That attendant was not professional and used his position as a power trip.
It’s not a power trip. The only person with the actual power to remove a passenger is the captain. That person has total control over the entire plane and everyone on it because that is one of their primary responsibilities, the safety of the flight crew and everyone onboard. Much more likely the passenger was being unruly and unreasonable and had to be dealt with for the sake of everyone else on the flight, including the flight attendant in question.

Your take would have us believe that not only the flight attendant who was misgendered, but also the rest of the crew along with the captain of the aircraft are all being unreasonable.
 
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Try calling a female cop an “officer-ess” and see how that goes. It’s an outdated term that creates an unnecessary distinction between male and female flight attendants who do the exact same job.
Thanks for clarifying.
 
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and if it turns out like many times in the past she was kicked off because she couldn't lighten up and when corrected went on a 10 minute rant about trans ruining the world or some other thing? Every time I've seen this, like teacher fired for not properly gendering a kid, they were fired for abuse, teasing, and mocking the kid infront of the class or other situations.
It's also possible she was kicked off because she was infected with a xenomorph, but there's no evidence of that either. She has the incident recorded and the airline's story doesn't line up. I give people the benefit of the doubt until given reason not to, and when someone is not being truthful, (the airline), everything they say and do thereafter is suspect.
 
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