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<blockquote data-quote="Gadarene" data-source="post: 63118141" data-attributes="member: 306152"><p>And you'll only push more in that direction if we take the measures you suggest. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You're doing what you always do, which is condemn over a billion people and suggest they should have their fundamental rights violated based on the actions of a handful.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And what you suggest is the root of the problem isn't necessarily so, or at least is not the sole root of the problem. The argument against the citation of Koran verses isn't that Christians are as bad in behaviour, it's that if we applied the same logic to Christianity (cherry-picking a few of the nastier verses) we would have to treat Christians the same way. And yet we don't. So there are clearly other factors in play - I'm sure buggering about with their countries and politics since (if not before) the days of the British Empire has <em>nothing at all </em>to do with it <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/old/doh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":doh:" title="doh :doh:" data-shortname=":doh:" /></p><p></p><p>And I will never for the life of me understand why atheists and Christians - two groups who think Islam and the Koran are cobblers from the ground up - still think there is a "true" meaning of Islam. One can argue that if a god is omnipotent then any inspired texts should not require anything more than a literalistic meaning, but assuming that this means that we should treat all members of a group like Islam by the literalists is wrong for the simple fact that not every Muslim is literalist with regard to the cited verses.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Who is "they"? The majority of Muslims in the UK are not planning to blow themselves up, and reference to a few verses in the Koran is not evidence that they are.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Gadarene, post: 63118141, member: 306152"] And you'll only push more in that direction if we take the measures you suggest. You're doing what you always do, which is condemn over a billion people and suggest they should have their fundamental rights violated based on the actions of a handful. And what you suggest is the root of the problem isn't necessarily so, or at least is not the sole root of the problem. The argument against the citation of Koran verses isn't that Christians are as bad in behaviour, it's that if we applied the same logic to Christianity (cherry-picking a few of the nastier verses) we would have to treat Christians the same way. And yet we don't. So there are clearly other factors in play - I'm sure buggering about with their countries and politics since (if not before) the days of the British Empire has [I]nothing at all [/I]to do with it :doh: And I will never for the life of me understand why atheists and Christians - two groups who think Islam and the Koran are cobblers from the ground up - still think there is a "true" meaning of Islam. One can argue that if a god is omnipotent then any inspired texts should not require anything more than a literalistic meaning, but assuming that this means that we should treat all members of a group like Islam by the literalists is wrong for the simple fact that not every Muslim is literalist with regard to the cited verses. Who is "they"? The majority of Muslims in the UK are not planning to blow themselves up, and reference to a few verses in the Koran is not evidence that they are. [/QUOTE]
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