Terrorism 2006

[Judy02]

So, did anyone see the headlines today?

I hear the lovely terrorists decided to leave us a lil anniversary present today, just incase we were feeling nostalgic about being bombed...

I am so thankful the stuff was found, otherwise the consequences would have been catastrophic - something like 10 planes flying out the US were planned to be struck right?

What does everyone think to this? People say that our immigration laws aren't really tight enough, but it still didn't stop it happening to America sadly, did it?

 

[remotecontrol]

So, did anyone see the headlines today?

I hear the lovely terrorists decided to leave us a lil anniversary present today, just incase we were feeling nostalgic about being bombed...

I am so thankful the stuff was found, otherwise the consequences would have been catastrophic - something like 10 planes flying out the US were planned to be struck right?

What does everyone think to this? People say that our immigration laws aren't really tight enough, but it still didn't stop it happening to America sadly, did it?

Its got nothing to do with immigration. These are British citizens (allegedly), just like the 7/7 murderers.
I think it would be harder for someone from outside the UK to get in and attack because so many of them are on watch-lists.
Just thank God and the security services that this was stopped.

Matt

 

[RichardE]

Well done to the UK forces I say, our country just got on with it and sorted it out. Now they have 10 days to convict the 21 people they have taken in. This is living proof that terrorists are still around and plotting, but now we just have to get on with things like usual and continue with our lives. Good thing no one was hurt and nothing actually happened.

 

[non-religious]

Well I guess we have been here a few times now and to be honest I'm quite wary of giving the intelligence service due praise in light of recent wrongful convictions. Sure they have to act and no-one would begrudge them that, but let's wait and see what comes out of these series of arrests becos frankly I'm not entirely convinced that the intelligence service is as efficient as some seem to think.....

 

[Martin^^]

Now they have 10 days to convict the 21 people they have taken in. This is living proof that terrorists are still around and plotting...

10 days to convict? What are you talking about?

According to the Liberty website:

The [anti-terrorist]legislation permits terrorist suspects to be detained for longer than other suspects and for them to have fewer or more constrained rights. The maximum period of detention without charge for someone arrested under terrorism legislation is 14 days but this is subject to judicial authorisation. Access to a solicitor, although the latter can be consulted privately, can be delayed for 48 hours, with additional grounds for delay to those that apply to other suspects. The same applies to the right to have someone notified of arrest.

http://www.yourrights.org.uk/your-rights/chapters/the-rights-of-suspects/anti-terrorism-powers/anti-terrorism-powers.shtml

I'm very glad they may have averted some kind of catastrophe, but I will be waiting to see some hard evidence before believing anything this government has to say about weapons of mass murder.
Similarly, for most serious crimes more people are arrested than ever charged or convicted. This story has a long way to play out yet.

 

[RichardE]

Well I'm wary of the services aswell but there we go, have to go with whatever leads they can and oh for the record, yes I know the legislation however, on BBC news yesterday it was reviled that they had 10 days.

 

[Judy02]

on BBC news yesterday it was reviled that they had 10 days.

Yeah, I thought I heard someone say that too

 

[yellowmongoose]

What I don't understand is why it was deemed necessary to cause chaos at the airports. The plotters had been arrested and the attack wasn't planned for yesterday anyway. They said on the news it was gonna happen soon. Surely they could've searched people's hand luggage and banned bottled drinks. It just has the hallmarks of an overreaction to me.

 

[Anniyas]

i really dont know what i think about it. What i do know is that the fact that the 4000 people who were left at the airports would have been sitting ducks if something were to happen.

 

[Martin^^]

Well I'm wary of the services aswell but there we go, have to go with whatever leads they can and oh for the record, yes I know the legislation however, on BBC news yesterday it was reviled that they had 10 days.

The BBC are normally quite reliable, so I'm not sure where they would have got the figure of 10 days from. It is also due to be increased to 28 days, I think, but I do not know if that is operational yet.
Of course, there is a big difference between the time limit for detaining suspects without charge and the time they must proceed to trial.
I wonder if terrorist organisers are using psychological profiling techniques to identify good candidates to approach to become suicide bombers? If they can recruit and train them in such numbers, it suggests some well-established system of selection, indoctrination and training, perhaps using similar mind control techniques to those deployed by some extreme Christian sects.

 

[nvrbnunloved]

Yeah, I thought I heard someone say that too

I think they would normally have 10 days in which to charge to suspects, but this can be extended as far as I know in the case of suspected terrorists. Convicting them is a whole other thing, and would take months if not years.

 

[Judy02]

I think they would normally have 10 days in which to charge to suspects, but this can be extended as far as I know in the case of suspected terrorists. Convicting them is a whole other thing, and would take months if not years.

Ah right ok thanks. Yeah think that's what I heard on the news, that it would normally have to be within 10 days to charge them.

 

[Catrione]

I had the joy of having a flight cancelled on Thursday due to the terrorist threat. I was trying to make my way to a wedding in England and had the pleasure of enduring a 3 hour ferry to scotland and a 7 hour drive to Reading...
The terrorists did it deliberately
Although in all seriousness, the security on the ferry was pathetic. Our bags weren't checked at all, and on the way back we were simply asked if everything in the car was our own...I could have been carrying explosives or guns which of course would have been my own property...

 

[Judy02]

I had the joy of having a flight cancelled on Thursday due to the terrorist threat. I was trying to make my way to a wedding in England and had the pleasure of enduring a 3 hour ferry to scotland and a 7 hour drive to Reading...
The terrorists did it deliberately
Although in all seriousness, the security on the ferry was pathetic. Our bags weren't checked at all, and on the way back we were simply asked if everything in the car was our own...I could have been carrying explosives or guns which of course would have been my own property...

lol oh dear...doesn't sound too good!

 

[non-religious]

I was listening to a debate this morning on the radio about whether airports should implement some form of racial profiling at airports. Not sure how that would necessarily work, but it certainly raised some very heated debate. I personally wouldn't be in favour of any such idea becos I just don't think it would work. They do however in many instances successfully carry out profiling for English football hooligans who travel abroad, but I'm not sure targeting every asian man with a beard will produce results

 

[Catrione]

it sounds a bit like Big Brother to me...everyone is to be watched and monitored...those who pose a potential threat to the Big Brother state are to be arrested without charge and held indefinately until guilt is proven...

 

[Judy02]

it sounds a bit like Big Brother to me...everyone is to be watched and monitored...those who pose a potential threat to the Big Brother state are to be arrested without charge and held indefinately until guilt is proven...

Can't say I'm surprised at that though really...its either that, or ignore any suspicion and risk more attack/s