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He can. God has MANY ways of dealing with problems with His big picture in mind. If we stay close to Him, we will end up on top no matter what strategy He chooses to use.

"And we know that all things work together for good to those who love God, to those who are the called according to His purpose." Romans 8:28 NKJV
 
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Does God create temporal consequences for sins that one commits against others? Even if the offender has taken every action to do it in secret without anyone knowing it was them?

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No, that is what the Day of Judgment is all about.

Mat. 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Rom. 14:12
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

2Cor. 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.
 
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No, that is what the Day of Judgment is all about.

Mat. 12:36
But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment.

Rom. 14:12
So then every one of us shall give account of himself to God.

2Cor. 5:10
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad.

So anyone can wreak havoc on others lives and God will just watch it happen? What's the point of prayer then if God won't intervene?
 
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What's the point of prayer then...?
So that He would be with us, and that we would land on our feet. With or without God, this world is treacherous. With God, its treachery can be used to our advantage.

When Joseph finally reconnected with his brothers (who had previously sold him into slavery), he said,

"But as for you, you meant evil against me; but God meant it for good, in order to bring it about as it is this day, to save many people alive." Genesis 50:20 NKJV
 
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So anyone can wreak havoc on others lives and God will just watch it happen? What's the point of prayer then if God won't intervene?

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I responded to your OP question, now you amending your question by adding that someone is wreaking havoc., what will you add tomorrow?
Do you want to get more specific, if your in a situation, then recount it, then there is a starting place for a discussion.
 
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I responded to your OP question, now you amending your question by adding that someone is wreaking havoc., what will you add tomorrow?
Do you want to get more specific, if your in a situation, then recount it, then there is a starting place for a discussion.


My girlfriend ex boyfriend is using a mistake she made a few years ago to shame her on the internet. The police were involved but they don't have enough evidence to legally charge him but they know it's him who is behind it. Unless he is caught or taken off the earth by God, he has free reign to continue to take pleasure in embarassing her over and over again.
 
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My girlfriend ex boyfriend is using a mistake she made a few years ago to shame her on the internet. The police were involved but they don't have enough evidence to legally charge him but they know it's him who is behind it. Unless he is caught or taken off the earth by God, he has free reign to continue to take pleasure in embarassing her over and over again.

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In that type of situation, the more attention you give to the person doing the wrong, the more they will persist in doing it.

If a person like that (Bully) is ignored, they have no ammunition to use against you.

Is what is being done embarrassing, has it already taken place, then move on, it's over.

I believe God doesn't intervene in these types of instances is, we would call down the Wrath of God upon everyone we disagreed with., you say here, "Unless he is taken off the earth" isn't that a little harsh for being embarrassed?

And how is he able to do it over and over again if it's already been done., sounds like there are pictures involved.

Don't acknowledge him any more, move on with your life, and it will die on it's own.
As long as you keep picking at that scab, it will never heal.

Mat. 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Rom. 12:21
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.
 
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Is she a Christian, too?

The reason that I ask is because Jesus had this to say on the matter,

"Blessed are you when they revile and persecute you, and say all kinds of evil against you falsely for My sake. Rejoice and be exceedingly glad, for great is your reward in heaven, for so they persecuted the prophets who were before you." Matthew 5:11-12 NKJV
 
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In that type of situation, the more attention you give to the person doing the wrong, the more they will persist in doing it.

If a person like that (Bully) is ignored, they have no ammunition to use against you.

Is what is being done embarrassing, has it already taken place, then move on, it's over.

I believe God doesn't intervene in these types of instances is, we would call down the Wrath of God upon everyone we disagreed with., you say here, "Unless he is taken off the earth" isn't that a little harsh for being embarrassed?

And how is he able to do it over and over again if it's already been done., sounds like there are pictures involved.

Don't acknowledge him any more, move on with your life, and it will die on it's own.
As long as you keep picking at that scab, it will never heal.

Mat. 5:44
But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;

Rom. 12:21
Be not overcome of evil, but overcome evil with good.

I would just love to move on and forget about it and let wounds heal.....but then would if he decides to re-open those wounds later on down the line only to go through all this over again? We're at his mercy of being able to fully move on from it.
 
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I would just love to move on and forget about it and let wounds heal.....but then would if he decides to re-open those wounds later on down the line only to go through all this over again? We're at his mercy of being able to fully move on from it.

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Mat. 6:34
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

When you worry about such things this verse says you bring into today the evil of tomorrow.

Let the future be in God's hands, don't try to fix it your self.
 
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Mat. 6:34
Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof.

When you worry about such things this verse says you bring into today the evil of tomorrow.

Let the future be in God's hands, don't try to fix it your self.

Well hopefully it's a God that will put an end to something like this
 
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