This is to say it is better for the species if its members run from non-existent tigers than to fail to run from existent tigers.
Upvote
0
Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
This is to say it is better for the species if its members run from non-existent tigers than to fail to run from existent tigers.There is always a tension between Type I and Type II errors.
"More simply stated, a type I error is to falsely infer the existence of something that is not there, while a type II error is to falsely infer the absence of something that is. "
Depends on how much of each we're talking about.This is to say it is better for the species if its members run from non-existent tigers than to fail to run from existent tigers.
I totally doubt the validity of creationism, bible lore, etc.People who question the validity of things often are more accurate.
The Power of Negative Thinking - The Atlantic
People who question the validity of things often are more accurate.
The Power of Negative Thinking - The Atlantic
People are meaning-junkies.
If we cant find meaning, we'll invent it to satisfy our deep psychological need for events to form a story.
The best stories tells you something very helpful that makes your life better, and is a powerful aid to survival and flourishing, thriving.
What is "true" or "false" in an instruction or way to live life? What's your definition? I know mine, but not sure what yours is, so hard to know what you meant.And just to make clear: a false story can have that effect as well.
And according to us both, that's been the case for at least 99.99% of "religious stories" out there.
The difference between a theist like you and an atheist like me, is that 0.01%
I say that as a species, we have outgrown the need for "stories" to drag us along and motivate us to get out of bed every morning.
In fact, I would even say that today, these "stories" are nothing but a hindrance.
What is "true" or "false" in an instruction on how to live life? What's your definition?
Yup! That's why I tested it extensively against many other ways to live, of a wide variety, and did so repeatedly over many years of time. What about you?Let's not pretend as if the story doesn't make claims about reality and gears a lot of its answers to questions like "how to live life?" directly from those fantastical religious assumptions.....
Yup! That's why I tested it extensively against many other ways to live, of a wide variety, and did so repeatedly over many years of time. What about you?
Did you say "biased"? Ah.... It's natural and inevitable that humans see in others what they themselves are doing. This is part of how the brain functions when trying to guess at other's attitudes/actions, etc. When anyone attributes guessed-at attributes to others we can reliably know they themselves have that attribute.I just looked at current and past societies and how ideology and dogma shaped those, so that I don't have to rely on my own anecdotal biased experiences.
And I can honestly tell you that I wouldn't want to live in a society that is ruled and/or infested by dogma - religious or otherwise.
Instead, I prefer to live in a free secular society with the least religious / faith-based / dogma influence possible. Preferably, none at all.
Just about everywhere I look, whenever "just belief" becomes acceptable, it usually doesn't end well.
Did you say "biased"? Ah.... It's natural and inevitable that humans see in others what they themselves are doing. This is part of how the brain functions when trying to guess at other's attitudes/actions, etc. When anyone attributes guessed-at attributes to others we can reliably know they themselves have that attribute.
heh heh. You can reimagine it however you wish, if that's more comfortable for you.Let's not pretend as if all religions aren't ultimately the acceptance of faith-based dogma to one extent or another.
heh heh. You can reimagine it however you wish, if that's more comfortable for you.
For me, I tried a lot of things extensively and well, at length, and reluctantly had to consider more than just the first saying of the teacher who's first saying I admired: "Love your neighbor as yourself". I'd have been comfortable to stop right there. Gain and done.
But that's not my habit. After that worked so amazingly well, then I had to admit there might be a possiblity he'd got more right than I wanted to think.
Even if that led in time to uncomfortable things.
Like "love your enemy" -- not at all comfortable, but the precise opposite.
Now, you could (I won't say 'pretend', I'll use a kinder word)....imagine...that's 'comfortable', if you insist on that, since you are free to think of things however unrealistically you like, of course. Seriously.
Hey, how about you answer the direct simple quesiton I asked above -- it's a really interesting one. In post #48.
Also, I love our American freedom, freedom to worship or not as you please, by your individual choice, without coercion. Let's keep that just as it is, when the future time comes Christ foretold, and it's easy to persecute people for their beliefs. Where will you stand on that day?
So you are really going to deny that religions in general require a faith-based acceptance of dogmatic claims? ...
What question?
Yes for mine in particular, won't speak for others except to suggest not always.
What is "true" or "false" in an instruction or way to live life? What's your definition?
(Post #48)
You do not have a dogmatic faith based acception of let's say the resurection?
You don't believe the resurection happened?
Invalid question. Like asking about the taste of purple.
True or false would relate to claims the religions makes about reality, about past events etc.
Instructions how to live life can be good or bad ideas, regardless of the source from which they were born.
I can find good and bad ideas in all religions and cultures.
Or movies, like Star Wars. And it matters not if Star Wars is a true story or not. A good idea, is a good idea.
Dogmatic to me means something like 'accept this becuase i say it, regardless of what Jesus said', so with that definition of 'dogmatic', I'm 0% dogmatic.
I asked my direct and clear question above in post #48 in response to your usage in post #47. You used the word "false", yourself. I'm asking you what is "false" or "true" in the context of your own usage, which you yourself are using.
I'd love to hear your answer on that.
↑
Me: "The best stories tells you something very helpful that makes your life better, and is a powerful aid to survival and flourishing, thriving."
You:
"And just to make clear: a false story can have that effect as well."
What do you mean here with the word "false"? What is "true" or "false" in a 'story'?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?