Telekinesis Help.

[r2d2651]

It is said in the bible that with the help of God a man can move a mountain if he believes he can with God well I believe the same principle applies with telekinesis and such but I need a bit of clarification. I will post a few quotes from a chat I had with my uncle and a few things I read somewhere:

These powers are in my opinion not demonic unless they are used to hurt people or foretell death, etc. They are real, natural, and often misunderstood abilities.

Jesus did some amazing miracles that fall within the realm of these abilities, so, not all demonic at all.

but he also said, that anything he did mankind is capable of doing.

but in the bible you shouldn't dabble in magic even if you have good intentions but would kinesis be classified as magic?

So unless telekinesis has been immorally acquired, it is a tool, and neither bad nor good.

So everyone...is it safe and morally okay to practice?

 

[Elijah2]

Sorry my dear brother, but any form of practice like that is basically witchcraft, which is condemned by our Lord Jesus Christ. You just can’t go and put “Christian” onto these practices and believe that the wrong is now “righted”.

Telekinesis is: “the influence of mind upon matter, as the use of mental 'power' to move or distort an object”, which is also a form of sorcery, magic. Keep well away from from it all as it’s another one of Satan’s weapons of temptation that allows the “roaring lion to devour whoever he seeks out with the snares of the fowler”.

“Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft, or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead. Anyone who does these things are detestable to the Lord, and because of these detestable practices the Lord your God will drive out those nations before you. You must be blameless before the Lord your God.” (Deut.18:10-13 )

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.

 

[wayseer]

It is said in the bible that with the help of God a man can move a mountain if he believes he can with God well I believe the same principle applies with telekinesis and such but I need a bit of clarification. I will post a few quotes from a chat I had with my uncle and a few things I read somewhere:

These powers are in my opinion not demonic unless they are used to hurt people or foretell death, etc. They are real, natural, and often misunderstood abilities.

Jesus did some amazing miracles that fall within the realm of these abilities, so, not all demonic at all.

but he also said, that anything he did mankind is capable of doing.

but in the bible you shouldn't dabble in magic even if you have good intentions but would kinesis be classified as magic?

So unless telekinesis has been immorally acquired, it is a tool, and neither bad nor good.

So everyone...is it safe and morally okay to practice?

Don't kid yourself - you are being seduced by images of power.

You might have read Tolkein's 'Lord of the Ring', or seen the movie. You are seeking the power of that ring. Those who seek power for the purpose of seeking power will be destroyed by the very thing they seek.

 

[Lyle]

The example jesus used was a figure of speech. It was probably more like this... They are near the mount of olives and Jesus wanted to demonstrate the power of true faith in the life of a believer. He gave them an example that would have just seemed impossible. Bud, remember, he also said we are to have the faith of a mustard seed. He just brought a spiritual concept into graspable terms.

About miracles. All of Christ's doings and sayings and everything-ings were only for the glory of God. Simply put. How devoted are you to the Bible? Miracles, or a strong closeness with Gd would never come to anyone unless they threw their entire life at it.

 

[theVirginian]

but he also said, that anything he did mankind is capable of doing.

Jesus said that by using the authority of His name (that only Christians have a right to excersize), we will do the same miracles that He did and more. He wasn't talking about mankind in general.

Man doesn't have any supernatural power of his own. Never has and never will. It either comes from God or satan. Satan's "miracles" are cheap imitations of God's and exalt the person doing them. It''s like, "Look at me, I'm such a spiritual hot shot." If you look at the "miracle", it's some useless stunt that helps nobody. In the case of white magic, it looks OK because it seems to help people, but it is still the occult and, in the end, is meant to divert people from Jesus and the true supernatural power we are designed to experience.

 

[rejectreality]

Well sir, I myself believe that when Jesus said man could move a mountain with the faith of a mustard seed, He was speaking the truth. However, what you need to ask yourself before dabbling in the super-natural, is "Is it for His glory, or mine?" God can grant amazing abilities, He is God. Satan can too though. God has given us all unique gifts and talents that He has a plan for. If moving objects with your mind isn't a talent God gave you, then it must be coming from somewhere else.

BTW, I don't think God has ever granted anyone the gift of telekinesis. Jesus could do it, but He is fully God.

Before ever trying something, ask first if you should. Is it His will, or yours?

God bless

 

[Lyle]

when did Jesus use telekinesis?

 

[rejectreality]

I can't recall the Bible describing Jesus ever actually using telekinesis, but He is God. What can't He do? He turned water into wine and brought a dead man back to life. He created all things. He can move them if He wants to.

I was trying to point out that Jesus, being fully man as well as fully God, was probably the only man on earth to ever possess the ability. Sorry for the confusion.

God bless

 

[r2d2651]

When I am doing this I credit all of it to god and my uncle said These powers are in my opinion not demonic unless they are used to hurt people or foretell death, etc.

 

[Lpe04]

It is said in the bible that with the help of God a man can move a mountain if he believes he can with God well I believe the same principle applies with telekinesis and such but I need a bit of clarification. I will post a few quotes from a chat I had with my uncle and a few things I read somewhere:

These powers are in my opinion not demonic unless they are used to hurt people or foretell death, etc. They are real, natural, and often misunderstood abilities.

Jesus did some amazing miracles that fall within the realm of these abilities, so, not all demonic at all.

but he also said, that anything he did mankind is capable of doing.

but in the bible you shouldn't dabble in magic even if you have good intentions but would kinesis be classified as magic?

So unless telekinesis has been immorally acquired, it is a tool, and neither bad nor good.

So everyone...is it safe and morally okay to practice?

This might be a little bit of a shock for you, brother. The Bible never says that with God you can move a mountain (but that's true too , what you are referring to is faith. It can be exercised for good or evil. Hopefully for good. God bless.

 

[r2d2651]

Really? Oh well I heard it somewhere...Well I believe with god you can move a mountain if you have enough faith wouldnt the same principles apply with moving a piece of paper?

 

[Lpe04]

Well, the exact quote, is, if you have faith enough, you can move a mountain. But yes, God can move the mountain too. If there is a need, He can also move the paper. He can also give you faith to move the paper. If that's what you need. That's about all I know

 

[r2d2651]

So it's alright to do it if I am thanking god and not qualifying it as telekinesis? I need some help quick B/C I told my cousin last night that she should try it and I don't want both our souls at risk for my stupidity!

 

[Elijah2]

When I am doing this I credit all of it to god and my uncle said These powers are in my opinion not demonic unless they are used to hurt people or foretell death, etc.

Sorry mate the "father of lies" says that all the time. It's like Christians who practice Reiki, Wicca, Yoga, Martial Arts and if they put "Christian" onto it to make it APPEAR safe and harmless and that because the practice is believing to be doing good then the powers of darkness behind the practices can't touch them.

It's like hiding behind a bush that is smaller than your body.

Don't go there!

Be blessed in Jesus' Name.

 

[theVirginian]

So it's alright to do it if I am thanking god and not qualifying it as telekinesis?

Back in my day (the '70s) telekinessis, astral projection, etc. was in a genre attributted to mind over matter called psychic phenomena. This is a pseudo scientific name for witchcraft. The mind is a living computer, nothing more. It doesn't have any more power to manipulate the physical realm than my Dell does. Thanking God for something that He has nothing to do with and destroys people's lives isn't going to legitimize it.

I need some help quick B/C I told my cousin last night that she should try it and I don't want both our souls at risk for my stupidity!

Please don't introduce your cousin to this.


Tell you what. Ask God to show you the truth about this stuff. He can do it much more effectively than we can explainning it over a message board. You'll be shocked at what you're dabbling in.

 

[Lpe04]

So it's alright to do it if I am thanking god and not qualifying it as telekinesis? I need some help quick B/C I told my cousin last night that she should try it and I don't want both our souls at risk for my stupidity!

No, I don't think your soul will "be at risk" , but really what it comes down to is, what's the profit? take care.

 

[r2d2651]

Thanks guys! I better go warn my cousin!

 

[Lpe04]

FYI, there may be a time when God tells you to "curse a fig tree", but he understands you weren't doing it for evil, you were just curious Actually picking up objects with my mind sounds like fun Makes me think of being in the X-men, haha. God Bless!

 

[HumbleServant94]

It is said in the bible that with the help of God a man can move a mountain if he believes he can with God well I believe the same principle applies with telekinesis and such but I need a bit of clarification. I will post a few quotes from a chat I had with my uncle and a few things I read somewhere:

These powers are in my opinion not demonic unless they are used to hurt people or foretell death, etc. They are real, natural, and often misunderstood abilities.

Sorry, but that's not true. The power comes from demons no matter what they do.

Jesus did some amazing miracles that fall within the realm of these abilities, so, not all demonic at all.
That's because He's God incarnate.
but he also said, that anything he did mankind is capable of doing.
He talks about faith, not psychic powers.
but in the bible you shouldn't dabble in magic even if you have good intentions but would kinesis be classified as magic?
Yes, it would.
So unless telekinesis has been immorally acquired, it is a tool, and neither bad nor good.
You don't need to do something immoral to gain help from demons. They do it on their own.
So everyone...is it safe and morally okay to practice?

Nope, it's not safe.

 

[Jesus Is Real]

No, I don't think your soul will "be at risk" , but really what it comes down to is, what's the profit? take care.

Amen, if it's not Bilbical, run. Literally look into the Bible to see if it's under Godly Authority before you do something that might hard your Eternal soul.