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Teilhard de Chardin’s Ideas Find Resonance Inside the Vatican 70 Years After His Death

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But later the Church accepts his writings, although he is still not part of the canon.

Also, when the Church had some issues with his writings, it had to do mostly with his thesis on evolution. The subject
wasn't accepted at the time because of Darwin's book but it is today.

Teilhard de Chardin, never stated that humans evolved from other species, but humans did evolve biologically and
the biological evolution slowed down about 10,000 years ago. However, the intellectual and spiritual evolution continued
and continues today.

OH, and as far as the article you posted, Thomas Aquinas (born 1225) was long before evolution was known and before Teilhard de Chardin (born 1881).
The article I posted includes a further implicit reiteration in 1981 of the 1962 condemnation. His works concerning philosophy and theology remain officially condemned by the Roman Catholic Church, said condemnation consequently serving as a spiritual warning to any Catholics flirting with Teilhard de Chardin's heresies.

Your final comment in reference to Thomas Aquinas is woefully pedestrian and otherwise difficult to believe. The point of the article posted is that Aquinas' QUESTION XLV ARTICLE 8 (written in the thirteenth century) is timeless, theologically obviating the acceptance of any form of evolutionism, including theistic evolutionism, or any related sophistry thereof, now or in the future.

Your last comment in reference to Thomas Aquinas completely misses the point.
 
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But later the Church accepts his writings, although he is still not part of the canon.

Also, when the Church had some issues with his writings, it had to do mostly with his thesis on evolution. The subject
wasn't accepted at the time because of Darwin's book but it is today.

Teilhard de Chardin, never stated that humans evolved from other species, but humans did evolve biologically and
the biological evolution slowed down about 10,000 years ago. However, the intellectual and spiritual evolution continued
and continues today.

OH, and as far as the article you posted, Thomas Aquinas (born 1225) was long before evolution was known and before Teilhard de Chardin (born 1881).
The article that I posted also explains that the 1962 condemnation of the philosophical and theological writings of Teilhard de Chardin was implicitly reiterated in 1981 by the Roman Catholic Church. That condemnation remains the official position of the Roman Catholic Church today despite the wishful sentiments of liberal elements therein, said condemnation serving as a spiritual warning for any Catholics flirting with such heresies.

Your comment in relation to Thomas Aquinas is woefully pedestrian. The point of the article that I posted is that Aquinas’ QUESTION XLV, ARTICLE 8 (written in the thirteenth century and therefore six centuries before Darwin) is timeless in its obviation of any form of evolutionism, include theistic evolutionism, or any related sophistries – then, now, or in the future.
 
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But later the Church accepts his writings, although he is still not part of the canon.

Also, when the Church had some issues with his writings, it had to do mostly with his thesis on evolution. The subject
wasn't accepted at the time because of Darwin's book but it is today.

Teilhard de Chardin, never stated that humans evolved from other species, but humans did evolve biologically and
the biological evolution slowed down about 10,000 years ago. However, the intellectual and spiritual evolution continued
and continues today.

OH, and as far as the article you posted, Thomas Aquinas (born 1225) was long before evolution was known and before Teilhard de Chardin (born 1881).
You are incorrect. It is true that Thomas Aquinas lived and wrote before Darwin’s Origin of species was written, but evolutionary thought was talked about from ancient times
It was discarded by philosophers because it literally makes no sense. It violates so many basic first principles as to be a joke
It is labeled as science and accepted by a population eagerly hungry to discard God. “Because they loved not the truth, they were given a lie to believe and sent strong delusion so that they would believe the lie rather than the truth”
A basic first principle that is violated by evolution is the fact that one cannot give what one does not have. Complexity does not arrise from simplicity. Primordial organisms do not have the complexity of human genetics, but we are lead to believe that this all spontaneously happened because it improved survival
I could say that 1,000,000,000 dollars would greatly improve my survival, so this amount will spontaneously arise in my bank account because it helps my survival. Any one believe that is going to happen?
You may say a rich uncle could die and leave it to me. Ok that is a source from outside, which is the same as saying that God wrote the code, it did not arise on its own.
Speaking of code, we can see in the evolution of computer language from simple BASIC and Fortran to pascal, c++ or any other coding language we now use, but that evolution came forth in the minds of the programmers, not the languages themselves
Then you say what about AI, it can reproduce and learn? Ok God created man in His image and we can reproduce and learn too. What’s your point?
God created man, humans wrote AI. Neither arose out of the dust of the earth by some cosmic accident. Modern scientists cannot even build a basic cell. Abiogenesis or chemical evolution cannot be shown to happen
Wasn’t it in the 1800s where the theory of spontaneous generations was proven to be false?

Tell me again how dust and water come together to form slime and then that slime forms animals and eventually humans. That is such a strong delusion, I believe Stoners would say, hey I want what he is smoking
 
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The article that I posted also explains that the 1962 condemnation of the philosophical and theological writings of Teilhard de Chardin was implicitly reiterated in 1981 by the Roman Catholic Church. That condemnation remains the official position of the Roman Catholic Church today despite the wishful sentiments of liberal elements therein, said condemnation serving as a spiritual warning for any Catholics flirting with such heresies.

Your comment in relation to Thomas Aquinas is woefully pedestrian. The point of the article that I posted is that Aquinas’ QUESTION XLV, ARTICLE 8 (written in the thirteenth century and therefore six centuries before Darwin) is timeless in its obviation of any form of evolutionism, include theistic evolutionism, or any related sophistries – then, now, or in the future.
Again, it was all centered around the Church's position on evolution which she was opposed to at first.

Today, the theory of evolution is accepted by the Church, especially as Teilhard de Chardin explained it.
 
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Again, it was all centered around the Church's position on evolution which she was opposed to at first.

Today, the theory of evolution is accepted by the Church, especially as Teilhard de Chardin explained it.
Can you back up your conclusion with a canonical reference?
 
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Can you back up your conclusion with a canonical reference?
It was never canonical to oppose him, but here's another article;


FYI, Pedre Pio was also forced to say Mass privately, as he took way too long to say the Mass in the church for people who
attended on their way to work.
 
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