Teaching child to scream "You are not my..." doesn't help much.

[lawtonfogle]

This is quite scary...

YouTube - STRANGER DANGER - CHILD ABDUCTIONS : Would Anyone Help Your Child When Being Abducted?

 

[visionary]

What can a child say or do that will get help?

 

[Zebra1552]

I'll have to watch this later, but statistically stranger danger isn't as much of a problem as people think. It's usually close friends or family members.

 

[mpok1519]

yes; children who are abducted, molested, or abused are victims of someone they know, or are related to.

It should be "Help! My dad is trying to steal me away from my mom bc she wont let him have part-time custody danger!"

 

[visionary]

How about "someone call 911 and tell the police you saw me being abducted"

 

[lawtonfogle]

yes; children who are abducted, molested, or abused are victims of someone they know, or are related to.

It should be "Help! My dad is trying to steal me away from my mom bc she wont let him have part-time custody danger!"

9 out of 10 times they are (I wonder how many of those 9 times it really wasn't even abuse, because two 15 year olds who dated and had sex would count as being abused by someone they knew), but what about that 1 out of 10? You are just going to stand by and hope it is a custody dispute?

 

[visionary]

"Police.. someone call the police.. stop this man from taking me..."

 

[keith99]

"Police.. someone call the police.. stop this man from taking me..."

Sounds good to me.

You are not my father is pretty poor. I've heard that used many times when the person involved is the person with legitimate custody and responsibility for a child and the issue is just something totally legitimate that the kid does not want to do.

Still for me if the kid is screaming it is enough to get involved, even if to just ask "who are you".

 

[Andrew Ryan]

Arm die kinder!

 

[lawtonfogle]

Sounds good to me.

You are not my father is pretty poor. I've heard that used many times when the person involved is the person with legitimate custody and responsibility for a child and the issue is just something totally legitimate that the kid does not want to do.

Still for me if the kid is screaming it is enough to get involved, even if to just ask "who are you".

What ever we teach children to scream when they are being abducted, they can use when throwing a tantrum. If a child is screaming, intervene or at least call 911. Better safe than sorry.

 

[keith99]

What ever we teach children to scream when they are being abducted, they can use when throwing a tantrum. If a child is screaming, intervene or at least call 911. Better safe than sorry.

It wasn't a problem when I was a kid. Any kid who screamed to call the police would do it at most once. It would not be brushed off, either by their parents or the police.

The more I think about it the more I think screaming call 911 is the right thing to teach. There are lots of poeple who won't get involved, but if reminded will call 911.

 

[Cute Tink]

The problem that I can see with having the child scream a message of more than a couple words is that either a) the child could forget the message in a moment of panic or b) bystanders might not be able to make out the words when screamed. I've told my children to simply scream "help" as well as kick, punch or do whatever else is necessary to fight someone off.

 

[Zebra1552]

Yelling help is ineffectual. Yelling fire would be more likely to get a response.

 

[Cute Tink]

Yelling help is ineffectual. Yelling fire would be more likely to get a response.

Based on what? (Honestly curious)

 

[lawtonfogle]

Based on what? (Honestly curious)

In people's minds, help can be walked away from, fires can't be. If you go running straight, you might end up in the fire. You at least need to pay enough attention to make sure you are running away.

 

[Caitlin.ann]

I thought they were supposed to yell "fire" to get attention if someone was trying to abduct them.

 

[Schneiderman]

Think about how you would react if you were walking in a public place, and you heard a child- and only a child, nobody else- yell "fire".

Maybe it's because I've spent too much time in NY, but I would completely ignore it.

IMO if you're going to teach your kid something, it should be along the lines of "help, call 911". But specifically, if the child is being attacked in view of other people, the child should be taught to point to someone and tell them to call 911.

It's very easy for most people to ignore a child yelling, no matter what they are yelling. But it's not easy to ignore anyone who is pointing at you and telling you specifically to call 911.

 

[Matariki]

Wow, that is scary. When I see anyone in trouble it disturbs me how I'm usually the only one that goes up to investigate whats wrong... are people honestly that retarded?

 

[Zebra1552]

Wow, that is scary. When I see anyone in trouble it disturbs me how I'm usually the only one that goes up to investigate whats wrong... are people honestly that retarded?

Nope. Not too long ago I was driving Northbound on a highway and a vehicle was on its side near the overpass on the Southbound side. I actually braked to pull over, cross traffic, and help, but then I noticed the 3 cars already stopped and people making haste towards said vehicle and figured it wouldn't be wise to step into traffic going 65-70 mph. There were a half dozen people helping the vehicle, and I'm sure someone had already called 911.

Interesting, because about an hour and a half later I was following someone who went off the road and I DID stop and make sure they were alright and called it in- the conditions were bad enough that staying there to help would have put myself and my car at risk, and that helps no one.

I remember when I was in HS I worked in a movie theater in the concession stand... some big guy was carrying his son who looked about 3 or 4 and put him on the counter. The kid then started to play with the straws. Guy slapped his hand and told him to knock it off. Then when the kid didn't listen- thought it was a game- shook him and asked him why he wouldn't listen. I said something to the effect of 'Maybe he might listen if you stopped hitting him'. Surprised I wasn't fired...

Thinking that you might help in a given situation is one thing. Deciding when and why you will do something in what situation, and what you will do is another. About the time Virginia Tech happened I decided that if a gunman ever entered a room I was in, I would do my best to help the other people in the room escape to safety. I've thought through many scenarios since then.

We covered a similar idea in social psychology today, talking about helping, ironically. A taxonomical distinction between reactive and proactive helping was made. For example, holding the door when the opportunity arises vs. deciding you'll hold the door 5 times per day and pay for the person behind you at the drive thru.

Saying you'll help is one thing. Knowing what to do and actually being in an emergency situation helps to no end. I'm first aid, CPR (all ages), BBP, and AED certified and I hold the rank of second degree black belt. I've trained enough in Taekwondo that if I were attacked my reactions would be timely enough to do me some good. Conversely, I've never really had the need to use the medical training nor the opportunity to practice. When a floormate collapsed last year, it was my landlord who started giving first aid and I called 911, not knowing what else to do. The old adage, you never know what you'll do until you're in a situation- that's true.

 

[Upisoft]

Everybody is passing by and thinking: "Stupid hidden camera again!"

Edit: Or next time they see something like this they may think so.