Talk About Confusion

[honorthesabbath]

I was amused today to see this post in the Walter Martin blog. It just goes to show the 'confusion' the main stream churches suffer from, 'not knowing the scriptures'. Do you see the irony of this womans opening statement?

I just heard the sad news that Billy Graham's wife, Ruth, went to be with the Lord today, and I'd like to express my heartfelt sympathy to all the members of the Graham family. It's sad to watch an era slowly coming to an end, but I can't help but envy Mrs. Graham her current address.

Now is this woman sad or happy about the Ms. Graham's death? You see what happens when ppl believe this lie of satan that man 'has' an immortal soul? It makes death the 'friend' of man--not his enemy as the bible calls it.

So as we can see by this and other sentiments of the main stream churches--they are CONFUSED as to how they perceive the death of friends and loved-ones. Let's call death what it is--the enemy of man that brings about such pain and heartache. But lets rejoice in the fact that there is a PROMISE of life again in the resurrection. 1Cor.15

 

[TrustAndObey]

It's so typical honestly.

I mentioned my second cousin's death this week in another thread (he was 16 and the official cause of death was "overdose"), and I'm sure at the funeral he will be preached right into heaven.

He didn't believe in Christ. He thought it was a fairytale.

I was just thinking today that I don't believe I've been to a funeral since I read the bible and learned the truth about death. I'm sure funerals are going to seem a lot different to me now, especially as I listen to the preachers.

I have lost a friend since I learned the truth, but I didn't attend her funeral (I couldn't). It wasn't any sadder than when I lost friends before, and I thought it might be.

 

[smooze]

Remember what Jesus said to the apostles when they wanted to prepare LAzarus for burial what did HE say. " let the dead take care of the dead" there must be soemthing to intern the dead to rest and we shouldn't grieve for loved 1 as we believe in the second coming. It's sad but I believe the dead are at rest or if not may they find rest.

 

[smooze]

ooh scriptures interpretation yah thats what this thread is about oooops sorry

 

[TrustAndObey]

But Jonathan, even Christ wept when Lazarus died. If we weren't to grieve, I don't think Christ would've.

Death IS sad, and Christ was totally able to relate to that from our aspect here on earth.

What's so sad about someone sleeping peacefully?

They miss so many things. My cousin will never get married or have children of his own. Plus he won't be there for his mom who dearly loved him.

It's just sad. No matter what someone believes about death, it's always sad.

 

[honorthesabbath]

You know--if you think about--when we cry at funerals--mostly we cry for 'self'. The person in that coffin knows nothing of our visatation to them (Job 14:21 His sons come to honour, and he knoweth it not; and they are brought low, but he perceiveth it not of them.). We cry because of all the things we know they will miss and that we are going to miss being with them. Sometimes, when we know that person wasn't saved--we cry because we know what lies ahead for them.

But the wonderful truth of scripture concerning the state of man in death is very comforting to me. I know that they 'know nothing', their love and their passions they no longer feel. As Jesus said, 'they sleep' until they hear this voice--either in the first resurrection or the second.

When my son-in-law died, during the funeral at the church,the preacher placed Mike in heaven--fishing up there-lol. Then at the grave site--this same preacher said Mike was waiting the resurrection!! Well--which is it sir?

The look of total confusion on the face of a 4yr.old during this funeral broke my heart. His father kept telling him, that Uncle Mike was in heaven--but the little boy kept pointing at the coffin and saying--"no-he's right here". Everyone kept telling him that he just didn't understand. "Out of the mouth of babes"-huh? Oh how I wanted to gently take that child aside and tell him the TRUTH about death. (Ec 3:19 For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity.)

 

[TrustAndObey]

It is a very confusing thing to mention someone up in heaven fishing, and then say they're waiting on the resurrection.

I don't think pastors realize sometimes that they can make a dramatic impact on all the people in the funeral home with the words they say. I'm sure they want to walk a thin line of not offending anyone (because so many people believe in "once saved, always saved"), but I don't think they should compromise the Word of God EVER.

 

[TrustAndObey]

I'm thinking about writing my own funeral service for my pastor. Hopefully I'll outlive the one we have now, but you never know!

That way when my family is all up in arms about what was said, my pastor can hand them my handwritten note expressing that I WANTED certain scriptures mentioned at my funeral.

He could mention it before he even starts.

They'll be dismayed that not only do I believe it, I believe it about MYSELF and everyone else. They won't like it, but they do know I sincerely believe it.

 

[vernee]

I'm thinking about writing my own funeral service for my pastor. Hopefully I'll outlive the one we have now, but you never know!

That way when my family is all up in arms about what was said, my pastor can hand them my handwritten note expressing that I WANTED certain scriptures mentioned at my funeral.

He could mention it before he even starts.

They'll be dismayed that not only do I believe it, I believe it about MYSELF and everyone else. They won't like it, but they do know I sincerely believe it.

That is a great idea.

And I totally agree with the crying for 'self' view.

 

[smooze]

Trust and Obey you can record your euolgy on a video or something telling people how you feel. OOOH Yah that is a stupid idea and morbid . HERE pop this in the VHS at my funeral and sit back. Its about 1 minute long I sleep through half of it and I deleted the finishing scene ENJOY. oooh or the person who says not to cry when they die . Hmmmm will they care. I am seriously just going to lay there at my funeral and you guys can have a bonfire and dance for all I care. Yes I want to be cremated so make sure im at the top of the bonfire it works better that way lol