Taking Questions on Embedded Age Creation

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

No it can study quietly and keep it;s baseless godless anti Christ opinions to itself as far as I am concerned, rather than trying to preach from the rooftops.

No it can't study quietly because, again, there are many facets of science that require studying the earth. So to study those facets of science, it must study the earth, which requires, as you so poorly put it, talking about creation.

So it's a 'heads I win, tails you lose' scenario for you, since no matter what, you still get to see science as the enemy.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

John said Jesus created all things. Not me.

It is though.

 

[BCP1928]

Parroting the same line ignores the truth pointed out several times to you that all deception rests on the heads of those who forsook God in their little schemes and dreams and alternate creation story telling machines.

Science has not forsaken God. Science just inadvertantly causes theological difficulties for that fringe of Christians who embrace the literal inerrancy of scripture.

 

[truthpls]

No it can't study quietly because, again, there are many facets of science that require studying the earth.

So? Have a look, but don't preach ill gotten conclusions from the rooftops

So to study those facets of science, it must study the earth, which requires, as you so poorly put it, talking about creation.

They can admit that when omitting the creator and creation they are not actually talking about creation, but some invented alternate reality

So it's a 'heads I win, tails you lose' scenario for you, since no matter what, you still get to see science as the enemy.

Parts of it are the enemy of God and mankind. Other parts, just the enemy of mankind! Then of course there are the pretty good bits as well that simply get misused in this fallen world.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

Parts of it are the enemy of God and mankind. Other parts, just the enemy of mankind! Then of course there are the pretty good bits as well that simply get misused in this fallen world.

See, it's comments like this that make me feel you'd be better off just not even bothering trying to say anything clever. Again, a very 'heads, I win, tails, you lose' attitude towards science.
Just say you hate science and move on.

 

[truthpls]

It is though.

It is the bible that tells us Jesus sent His Spirit to help those who heard His words remember them, so they could get them right.

Science has not forsaken God. Science just inadvertantly causes theological difficulties for that fringe of Christians who embrace the literal inerrancy of scripture.

How could they forsake a god they never knew? Rest assured, the godless pipe dreams of the priests of science cause us no difficulties. They actually are good target practice for arguments

 

[dlamberth]

What we have then is the absolute omission of creation and God by science in all scenarios and explanations of what could have happened. They proceed to form conclusions based solely on a godless speculation model and nothing but a godless speculation model (religiously)

The thing is, science is not a study of religion. If it was I'd much prefer that science pursues the Indigenous perspective way more than any Biblical trajectory. But in the end its up to you and I, not science, to find a place for the Divine within our own spiritual experiences.

 

[dlamberth]

It is a pity so many were deceived by the interpretations science offered.

For me, it's been a total blessings for science to open a window into God's Creation. It's been way more enlightening than the creation stories of an ancient middle-eastern tribe of desert dwellers that had no window into what we are blessed with today.

 

[Vambram]

The Bible actually says very little about the details of the processes involved. From the introduction of old Earth geology and the biological theory of evolution up until the early 1960s the general Christian position was that only the evolution of human beings posed any real problem. Tennessee's 1925 Butler Act, which John Scopes was found guilty of violating, only forbade the teaching of human evolution, not any other kind. YECism was only popular with fringe Protestant sects; the Jehovaha's Wittnesses, Sevent Day Adventists, Dispensationalists, erc.

YEC has been the belief of far more than fringe Protestant sects. YEC has been taught in Baptist and Christian colleges for longer than I have been alive. YEC is also the most common belief concerning creationism as found in the independent Baptists and the Evangelical church websites of local churches.

 

[Vambram]

Science has not forsaken God. Science just inadvertantly causes theological difficulties for that fringe of Christians who embrace the literal inerrancy of scripture.

I do not have any theological difficulties at all in believing the inerrancy of the original manuscripts of the Scriptures.

 

[Vambram]

For me, it's been a total blessings for science to open a window into God's Creation. It's been way more enlightening than the creation stories of an ancient middle-eastern tribe of desert dwellers that had no window into what we are blessed with today.

Those so-called creation stories, if you are referring to what Moses wrote down in Genesis, were given to Moses by the Lord God Himself, if you believe in the inerrancy of the original manuscripts of the Scriptures. Also, in the NT, the creation account as given in Genesis is confirmed by various New Testament scriptures.

 

[dlamberth]

Those so-called creation stories, if you are referring to what Moses wrote down in Genesis, were given to Moses by the Lord God Himself, if you believe in the inerrancy of the original manuscripts of the Scriptures. Also, in the NT, the creation account as given in Genesis is confirmed by various New Testament scriptures.

The Earth, as Created by God tells a different story. I go by what God Created. And, I have no problem spiritually connecting the window science has opened up into God's Creation with God directly. Did Moses write Gesesis...no one knows but probably not.

 

[Vambram]

The Earth, as Created by God tells a different story. I go by what God Created. And, I have no problem spiritually connecting the window science has opened up into God's Creation with God directly. Did Moses write Gesesis...no one knows but probably not.

In other words, you prefer to go with interpretation of scientific evidence over ruling ALL of the passages and verses in the Bible on the topic of creationism.

 

[dlamberth]

In other words, you prefer to go with interpretation of scientific evidence over ruling ALL of the passages and verses in the Bible on the topic of creationism.

Yep. I go with what God's own Creation, as Created by God and signed off with His own signature is showing us.

 

[truthpls]

You appear to think the Holy Spirit only helped you--the only one who has gotten them right.

Maybe they knew Him better than you do. But you defintely need more practice.

No the Holy Spirit was sent to those God chose that heard Him speak on earth to help them remember His words that were said. All we have to do is read them, rather than belittle and badmouth them

 

[Vambram]

Yep. I go with what God's own Creation, as Created by God and signed off with His own signature is showing us.

In other words, it appears that you don't trust what the writers of the original manuscripts of the Scriptures wrote and said about this topic.

 

[truthpls]

The thing is, science is not a study of religion.

No it is a religiously adhered to methodology that fanatically excludes creation and God. Not sure why you are trying to tell us what science is, as if anyone cares? Once it stepped out of line it lost all credibility. A bit like the medical profession for many people after the covid scam.

If it was I'd much prefer that science pursues the Indigenous perspective way more than any Biblical trajectory.

If wishes were horses...

But in the end its up to you and I, not science, to find a place for the Divine within our own spiritual experiences.

The issue is not finding peace here it is embedded age. I gave an example of a rock here at creation that already had isotopes and material in it. Anyone reading those materials as if they got there by decay or some other way would be laughably wrong. So embedded age overrules science

 

[truthpls]

Yep. I go with what God's own Creation, as Created by God and signed off with His own signature is showing us.

Jesus is God's signature and He created it all.

 

[dlamberth]

Jesus is God's signature and He created it all.

Did Jesus create embedded age into this Creation?

 

[dlamberth]

In other words, it appears that you don't trust what the writers of the original manuscripts of the Scriptures wrote and said about this topic.

I'd think that's pretty clear by now.