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ok, so not everything in the Bible or even what Jesus says is to be taken literally?
No. Not on paper. In the rocks.Only on paper.
Only in your fictional scenarios that have no relationship with reality. Only in your challenge threads."Baked" is the key word though, isn't it?
If God created 5000 loaves of nice warm raisin bread, like He did in Bethsaida, to feed 5000 starving Hindu families, would you accuse Him of deceit?
You can't spot the raisins in raisin bread?
Raisins ... you know ... mature grapes, but without a history?
Only in your fictional scenarios that have no relationship with reality. Only in your challenge threads.
You confuse reality with fiction.
"The Bible, as a whole" by that I take you mean there are some exceptions such as allegory and hyperbole.That is correct.
The Bible, as a whole, is to be taken literally, because It is more literal than allegory and hyperbole combined.
On the other hand, if It was more allegory than literal and hyperbole combined, then you take It allegorically.
Ditto for hyperbole.
And in case you didn't know it, I take Jesus' parables literally.
It could be because there's zero evidence of said week. In fact, God's own Creation is showing us that Truth.Stuff like this is why you should never go outside of Genesis 1 & 2 in discussing Creationism, or the thread is over.
People will want to talk about everything BUT the Creation Week.
The Fall, the Flood, the Exodus -- anything but.
"The Bible, as a whole" by that I take you mean there are some exceptions such as allegory and hyperbole.
And yet you take Genesis literally to accommodate the absurd notion of Embedded age creation?
You take Jesus' parables literally?
As in there rally was a historical woman who lost a coin and swept her house for it?
A man who built bigger barns and died before using them?
A prodigal son and forgiving father?
Laborers getting same pay for shorter hours work?
Foolish virgins?
It could be because there's zero evidence of said week.
In fact, God's own Creation is showing us that Truth.
Can it be discussed with out all of the mumbo jumbo that seems to accompany it?So you need evidence to discuss it?
Science has opened a window into how God Creates. In that way science is a blessing from God.That science can take a hike?
Science has opened a window into how God Creates.
I don't know that.Then why do most scientists not believe in Him?
Then why do most scientists not believe in Him?
Well, come now. It s not a fact at all. It is your eccentric belief.I take Genesis literally to accommodate the fact of what happened in 4004 BC.
Aside from the Genesis account is there any other compelling reason to believe that?
Did you read the commentary of your own source?Peter's account.
2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Uh huh, and how do you know that the real KJV did not say something different, and God has somehow scrambled the letters in the transmission to you? How do you know that the original, authorized, infallible KJV did not say, "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were created 13.8 billion years ago, and the Earth consolidated into existence 4.5 billion years ago?" Could it be that after originally writing that, God scrambled the letters in the transmission so you read something different?Peter's account.
2 Peter 3:5 For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
Just a little FYI: The Bible was written in Early Modern English. I'm not sure but if I remember correctly, AV uses the term Jacobean English? Where it matters in your reply is that AV believes this is also the language that Adam and Eve spoke. Thus being the language of God, the Bible is infallible and the direct words of God. Do I have that right, AV?Uh huh, and how do you know that the real KJV did not say something different, and God has somehow scrambled the letters in the transmission to you? How do you know that the original, authorized, infallible KJV did not say, "For this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were created 13.8 billion years ago, and the Earth consolidated into existence 4.5 billion years ago?" Could it be that after originally writing that, God scrambled the letters in the transmission so you read something different?
After all, your words indicate that God took all those bones lying around after the Flood, and somehow transported them through solid rock, often thousands of feet deep, such that each ended up in a layer that is consistent with an evolutionary scenario. If your God is able to do that to fossils, how do you know he is not able to do that with letters? For if your God specifically arranged the fossils in an order that would fool Doubtingmerle, Akita, Hans, Estrid, Dlamberth and others into thinking that animal life changed with time over millions of years as shown in the rocks, how do you know God did not specifically rearrange the letters of the KJV such that they fooled AV1611VET into thinking the Earth began in 4004 BC?
Yes, I understand that AV thinks God gave his infallible Bible in English. I certainly dispute that, but this would not be the proper forum to challenge him on that point.Just a little FYI: The Bible was written in Early Modern English. I'm not sure but if I remember correctly, AV uses the term Jacobean English? Where it matters in your reply is that AV believes this is also the language that Adam and Eve spoke. Thus being the language of God, the Bible is infallible and the direct words of God. Do I have that right, AV?
Just a little FYI: The Bible was written in Early Modern English. I'm not sure but if I remember correctly, AV uses the term Jacobean English? Where it matters in your reply is that AV believes this is also the language that Adam and Eve spoke. Thus being the language of God, the Bible is infallible and the direct words of God. Do I have that right, AV?
If we accept that God acted in the deceptive way AV suggests, how would any of us know anything?
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