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If you truly believe this, I have a question for you:The bible may be good enough for you but the OT is still just stories dreamt up by bronze age people to explain away something they could not possibly comprehend, and would you believe, not very bright 21st century people are still falling for it, but I guess that's what they would call progress in the bible belt.
I've got Something better than evidence --- the Bible.
Mike Elphick said:First, I think Split Rock may be probing you for answers as to why so much age was embedded (4-5 billion years), which is a lot longer than what would be required to make mountains, rivers and (most importantly) the soil ready for habitation by trees, fish and mammals.
I certainly cannot answer that question, as that would fall under God's sovereignty.
I'm sure He embedded the exact amount He wanted.
AV1611VET said:Mike Elphick said:He may also have been wondering why there was a need to embedded age in the first place, when God had infinite time to let the world "mature" on its own, naturally and in real time.
If by "mature on its own", you mean the appearance of life on it as well, then I don't believe He did that.
AV1611VET said:God is a God of boundaries, and I believe He has placed boundaries that nature cannot pass.
AV1611VET said:And evolution cannot work with these boundaries in place.
AV1611VET said:Mike Elphick said:*Second, if the "answer is in the question", this is the first time you've ever given a REASON for embedded age (and I've asked you often enough). Are you now saying it was to 'weather' the earth — to grind the rocks down a bit and let the world stabilise to make it a "mature" place for life to exist?
No --- that would entail the passage of time.
AV1611VET said:Here's what SR asked, with the answer in the question itself:
Why did God find it necessary to "embed" age, just to make the earth "mature" enough to support Adam and the rest of life He created?
I highlighted the answer in red.
AV1611VET said:Mike Elphick said:If that's the case then your embedded age most definitely has history embedded with it too — sedimentary rocks (created by weathering) in temporal (historical) sequence, the oldest at the bottom, the youngest at the top. This is something we've been telling you all along.
I'm glad you see the problem with your own statement.
Perhaps we are making some progress?
That applies to me as well.I've got Something better than evidence --- the Bible.Which makes the Bible your evidence.
That applies to me as well.
So your efforts to change It back to evidence, when I just said there's Something better than evidence, negates the rest of your disrespectful post.
If you truly believe this, I have a question for you:
Did the Jews have a right to their land prior to 1948?
Let's see your level of comprehension.
All modern nation states have a story of their origins, passed down through both official and popular culture, and yet few of these accounts have proved as divisive and influential as the Israeli national myth. The well-known tale of Jewish exile at the hands of the Romans during the first century AD, and the assertion of both cultural and racial continuity through to the Jewish people of the present day, resonates far beyond Israel's borders. Despite its use as a justification for Jewish settlement in Palestine and the project of a Greater Israel, there have been few scholarly investigations into the historical accuracy of the story as a whole. In this bold and ambitious new book, Shlomo Sand shows that the Israeli national myth has its origins in the nineteenth century, rather than in biblical times when Jewish historians, like scholars in many other cultures, reconstituted an imagined people in order to model a future nation. Sand forensically dissects the official story and demonstrates the construction of a nationalist myth and the collective mystification that this requires. A bestseller in Israel and France, Shlomo Sands book has sparked a widespread and lively debate. Should the Jewish people regard themselves as genetically distinct and identifiable across the millennia or should that doctrine now be left behind and if the myth of the Jewish state is dismantled, could this open a path toward a more inclusive Israeli state, content within its borders?
The Invention of the Jewish People: Amazon.co.uk: Shlomo Sand: Books
I'll ask you the same question then, Mike: Did the Jews have a right to their land prior to 1948?This has nothing to do with levels of comprehension, but with knowing, understanding and interpreting history.
In "The Invention of the Jewish People" by Shlomo Sand it is suggested that the history of the Jewish people is not as straight-forward as many are led to believe:-
If you truly believe this, I have a question for you:
Did the Jews have a right to their land prior to 1948?
Let's see your level of comprehension.
That applies to me as well.
So your efforts to change It back to evidence, when I just said there's Something better than evidence, negates the rest of your disrespectful post.
That's the spirit!Did the Jews have a right to their land prior to 1948?This has nothing to do with levels of comprehension, but with knowing, understanding and interpreting history.I'll ask you the same question then, Mike: Did the Jews have a right to their land prior to 1948?Do the Native Americans living in reserves have a right to their land?
I've got Something better than evidence --- the Bible.
That's right --- and the higher the number, the more likely for failure.I've personally, on this board, seen you multiple times "defend the Bible" by referring to prophecy counts as if to bolster the idea that the Bible is somehow "correct"...
Did they rights to that land in 1848?Yes, of course they did.
Have property rights changed somehow in 1948?
Get a calculator and verify Bishop Ulster's [sic] calculations yourself then, if you think he was mathematically wrong.So I guess my question on embedded age is "With no evidence for embedded age and no evidence that Bishop Ulster was correct in his calculations why should I believe your hypothesis to be correct?"
Yes, of course. Their land is their land. In 1948, 1848 and 2048.Did they rights to that land in 1848?
I'll ask you the same question then, Mike: Did the Jews have a right to their land prior to 1948?
Get a calculator and verify Bishop Ulster's [sic] calculations yourself then, if you think he was mathematically wrong.
Embedded Age is an eclectic explanation that combines YEC with the ages that science goes by, into one coherent cosmology.Maybe you could answer the question I asked about embedded age? Since that is the topic of the thread you created after all.So I guess my question on embedded age is "With no evidence for embedded age and no evidence that Bishop Ulster was correct in his calculations why should I believe your hypothesis to be correct?"
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