Taking questions of the Different state past (2)

[PsychoSarah]

What does that have with your conscious decision to not believe in God?

Again, not a conscious decision. Think of my case as my own brain trolling me, I want to believe, but my brain says "nope, not enough evidence". I require a certain amount of evidence and convincing to support any given concept; if that isn't met, I can't believe it, regardless as to how much I want to or how appealing the concept is. And no, I don't get to consciously decide how much evidence I need to believe something

 

[Davian]

Is that a subconscious clueless belief or the result of conscious consideration?

Your abdication has been accepted.

If you would like to continue, then don't be rude; answer questions put to you, then I answer yours.

The question stands: I have some coins in my pocket. Do you believe that it is an odd number of coins, or even?

 

[PsychoSarah]

Your abdication has been accepted.

If you would like to continue, then don't be rude; answer questions put to you, then I answer yours.

The question stands: I have some coins in my pocket. Do you believe that it is an odd number of coins, or even?

Odd. Although to be frank, it would shock me if you had literal change in your pocket at all right now

 

[Davian]

Odd. Although to be frank, it would shock me if you had literal change in your pocket at all right now

lol. You made me check.

 

[PsychoSarah]

lol. You made me check.

The result...?

 

[Davian]

The result...?

The point is not to guess correctly, but to explore the nature of belief. Let's see if he bites.

 

[dad]

No contradiction. Disbelief is not a choice, it is the neutral position..

I chose to disbelieve godless evolution.

 

[Loudmouth]

I chose to disbelieve godless evolution.

Then it isn't about reality, but about your preferences of belief. Nice to know.

 

[dad]

Well then, why do you believe in a god?

I reject creation by evolution out of hand and all so called science that has led man to accept that lie. I do not believe it, because I do not find the concept to be convincing, consciously, or subconsciously. Simple as that. Seriously, why should I? Not only that, but I see that God says it is not true also. I do believe God because I tried Him and found He was real, and history and Scripture are rife with proofs of the type that matter.

 

[Loudmouth]

I reject creation by evolution out of hand and all so called science that has led man to accept that lie.

How do you know it is a lie if you ignore all of the evidence?

 

[Davian]

I chose to disbelieve godless evolution.

 

[Davian]

I reject creation by evolution out of hand and all so called science that has led man to accept that lie. I do not believe it, because I do not find the concept to be convincing, consciously, or subconsciously. Simple as that. Seriously, why should I? Not only that, but I see that God says it is not true also.

Where did God say that? Did he speak to you personally? Do you hear voices?

I do believe God because I tried Him and found He was real, and history and Scripture are rife with proofs of the type that matter.

How do you try God out? Like a used car, you get in and drive Him around the block?

 

[dad]

 

[dad]

How do you know it is a lie if you ignore all of the evidence?

I do not ignore the evidence that matters. Is it wise to resort to weird accusations rather than post intelligently?

 

[Loudmouth]

I do not ignore the evidence that matters.

Yes, you did.

"I reject creation by evolution out of hand and all so called science that has led man to accept that lie."--dad

 

[justlookinla]

The point is not to guess correctly, but to explore the nature of belief. Let's see if he bites.

What does this have to do with your decision to not believe in God?

 

[Davian]

What does this have to do with your decision to not believe in God?

You are being rude again.

 

[justlookinla]

You are being rude again.

You're still playing games.

 

[Davian]

You're still playing games.

No, what I am doing (or attempting) is called Socratic questioning.

"Socratic questioning (or Socratic maieutics) is disciplined questioning that can be used to pursue thought in many directions and for many purposes, including: to explore complex ideas, to get to the truth of things, to open up issues and problems, to uncover assumptions, to analyze concepts, to distinguish what we know from what we don't know, to follow out logical implications of thought or to control the discussion."

Socratic questioning - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You, on the other hand, appear simply to want to tell me what I think, and failing miserably at it.

If you are up for some serious discussion, let me know.

 

[dad]

Yes, you did.

"I reject creation by evolution out of hand and all so called science that has led man to accept that lie."--dad

That is not ignoring or rejecting anything, but rather putting vile fiction in it's little place...and doing so with some relish.