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Dang. I've been working so much that I forgot what day it was.
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Last Tuesdayism is a heresy. We accept Last Thursdayism around here.
Mind?Dang. I've been working so much that I forgot what day it was.(I never could get the hang of Thursdays anyways...) And yes, AV sounds exactly like every other YEC I've come across. Why do people even bother responding to him? I'm sure that he'll admit that there is nothing that could change his mind at this point.
do you have any reliable, empirical, scientific evidence that would lead one to conclude that there was a massive global flood some 4000 years ago?I'll take questions on the Creation and/or the Flood, and do my best to answer them from a Biblical perspective.
I major in both areas.
do you have any reliable, empirical, scientific evidence that would lead one to conclude that there was a massive global flood some 4000 years ago?
I personally find the salinity issue particularly damning. As an aspiring marine biologist myself I can assure you that most aquatic organisms can tolerate a very narrow range of salinities. Only certain species can tolerate the wide ranges and they are mostly found in enstuaries (where rivers meet the oceans). The interesting twist i see is that not only would the freshwater fish have died when the ocean water hit the oceans but the amount of water required to raise the oceans above the mountains would have significantly diluted the oceans to the point that neither salt or freshwater fish would have survived.I have not read this thread But i would like some questions answered.
1 How big was the arc?
2 how long did it take to build
3 how many animals were their on the arc?
4 how long did it take to collect the animals?
5 how could the animals that Noah collected live long enough for Noah to collect all the *other* animals?
6 were did all the food from the voyage come from?
7 was Noah rich or poor?
8 how much time did Noah have to do all this
9 were their dinos on the arc?
10 how did the genetic purity of humans and animals survive, and why has science not detected our shallow dna pools. wouldn't we all look alike (see cheetah)?
11 why did Noah not save unicorns and dragons and all the other magical creatures?
12 how did we developed such rich cultures in such a short amount of time? if god gave us different cultures through the tower of bable (and not just different speech), how could be upset with Buddhists and Hindu and Muslims for thinking differently, after all religion is mostly based on geography and culture.
13 how did our skin colors change (not just black and white)?
14 were did the excess water come from?
15 were did the water go afterwards?
16 how did the fresh water animals live when all the rivers and streams were covered in salt water. The way I see it, ether all the salt water fish died or all the fresh water fish died.
17 how did all the trees survive the flood?
18 how did animals migrate to remote islands?
19 why do some places exist that clearly show no signs of erosion (as mentioned earlier in this thread)
20 how did Noah rescue the termites?
1 How big was the arc?
Deuteronomy 3:11 said:...nine cubits was the length thereof, and four cubits the breadth of it, after the cubit of a man.
2 how long did it take to build
3 how many animals were their on the arc?
4 how long did it take to collect the animals?
5 how could the animals that Noah collected live long enough for Noah to collect all the *other* animals?
6 were did all the food from the voyage come from?
7 was Noah rich or poor?
8 how much time did Noah have to do all this
9 were their dinos on the arc?
10 how did the genetic purity of humans and animals survive, and why has science not detected our shallow dna pools. wouldn't we all look alike (see cheetah)?
11 why did Noah not save unicorns and dragons and all the other magical creatures?
He did --- these "kinds" were not "magical creatures". The unicorn was a rhino prototype, and the dragon was a dinosaur prototype.
More later.
Define "perfect gene pool" in biologically relevant terms. I'll give you some credit if you can demonstrate a basic understanding for the genetic basis for problems that arise from inbreeding. Clearly perfect doesnt mean they were genetically exact or closer, right?The gene pool was perfect in Genesis 1. So much so, that it was okay for a man to marry his sister (as Cain may have done).
Even Answers in Genesis knows that the water canopy idea is wrong. If the water canopy caused any substancial rain, the Earth's temperature would have been intolerably high.The water came from two major sources:
- A water canopy surrounding the Earth - (Genesis 1:6-7).
- Subterranean sources - (Genesis 7:11).
Had He done it that way, He couldn't have used it later in the New Testament as a warning that in the end of the dispensation that you and I are currently living in (Grace), we will return to the days of Noah.
The gene pool was perfect in Genesis 1. So much so, that it was okay for a man to marry his sister (as Cain may have done).
It began to decay in Genesis 3.
He did --- these "kinds" were not "magical creatures". The unicorn was a rhino prototype, and the dragon was a dinosaur prototype.
More later.
He did --- these "kinds" were not "magical creatures". The unicorn was a rhino prototype, and the dragon was a dinosaur prototype.
More later.
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