Taking a breather..........

[JimfromOhio]

I've decided to take a temporary break for a little while. Throughout Foru.ms postings and what is going on in the "Christian Conservative World", I have come to conclusion that the term "Christian Conservative" is increasingly taking on a negative connotation scandals and other controversies. As Jim Daly, president of Focus on the Family said "Christians are about love and truth".

The labels 'Conservative' and 'Liberal' are not so effective when many do not really agree on many issues. The labels themselves merely represent differing political means to a common social end, whereas Christianity represents a spiritual means to a spiritual end. I do not think it is a heresy that a Christians call themselves Liberal or Conservative because Jesus, was neither. Jesus Christ have HIS OWN views that stands alone, above and outside of every ideology of this man0driven world. I think both conservatives and liberals have Christian attributes if each removed non-Christian attributes. By removing the non-Christian attributes, you will see the actual listing of Christian attributes. Christ have not given us a ideology agenda, but a spiritual mandate to proclaim the Gospel and disciple the nations (Matthew 28:19-20).

Regarding other so called "Christian" message boards around the internet world, I have joined them, tried them and did not favor them. They are too exclusive and not enough to reach out to the lost. Christians today are living it up under the smug delusion that they're "saved," drive others away from real Christianity with their hypocrisy. Hypocrites we are however we are on the way to liberation even from our own hypocrisy. Jesus reserved his hardest words for the hidden sins of hypocrisy, pride and legalism.

I am not very pleased regarding what is going on around this forum and taking a break would be good and see what happens.

 

[Criada]

 

[MrJim]

Lookin' forward to hearing some fresh insights when ya come back...and don't "sneak in" a la ProdicalChristian next time

 

[~*Lady Trekki*~]

I've decided to take a temporary break for a little while. Throughout Foru.ms postings and what is going on in the "Christian Conservative World", I have come to conclusion that the term "Christian Conservative" is increasingly taking on a negative connotation scandals and other controversies. As Jim Daly, president of Focus on the Family said "Christians are about love and truth".

The labels 'Conservative' and 'Liberal' are not so effective when many do not really agree on many issues. The labels themselves merely represent differing political means to a common social end, whereas Christianity represents a spiritual means to a spiritual end. I do not think it is a heresy that a Christians call themselves Liberal or Conservative because Jesus, was neither. Jesus Christ have HIS OWN views that stands alone, above and outside of every ideology of this man0driven world. I think both conservatives and liberals have Christian attributes if each removed non-Christian attributes. By removing the non-Christian attributes, you will see the actual listing of Christian attributes. Christ have not given us a ideology agenda, but a spiritual mandate to proclaim the Gospel and disciple the nations (Matthew 28:19-20).

Regarding other so called "Christian" message boards around the internet world, I have joined them, tried them and did not favor them. They are too exclusive and not enough to reach out to the lost. Christians today are living it up under the smug delusion that they're "saved," drive others away from real Christianity with their hypocrisy. Hypocrites we are however we are on the way to liberation even from our own hypocrisy. Jesus reserved his hardest words for the hidden sins of hypocrisy, pride and legalism.

I am not very pleased regarding what is going on around this forum and taking a break would be good and see what happens.

Everyone needs to take a break once in awhile. Will miss you though!

 

[£amb]

Do enjoy your break....hope to see ya when you come back...(if you do... )

 

[Lisa0315]

Waiting with open arms when you return.

Lisa

 

[Hentenza]

Well Jim, don't stay gone long because I have always enjoyed reading your posts, however, I can understand why you need to take a break and eagerly await your return. Peace brother.

In Christ
Henry

 

[GreenMunchkin]

Gonna miss you, Jim

 

[Greenthumb]

Will miss you Jim. I enjoy reading your posts. Hope you come back soon.

 

[JimfromOhio]

I am resigning from "Conservative Christians" where I don't think certain individuals who I don't agree with is willing to do what God wanted us to do. So much complaining and so much disputing. I rather move myself away such association. Also, I have "lurked" that I can see some members are simply not happy wanted to get away from Foru.ms. If this the attitude, I don't want to be part of this.

This is my new statement of faith regarding being a "Conservative Christian".

Many Conservative Christians insist that beliefs are fundamental to Christianity. Conservative Christians hold the basic beliefs of Christianity while cooperating across denominational boundaries and focus on social and moral responsibility. I would like to see "Conservative Christians" discuss human nature in relation to sin which is the classic view of human nature affirms original sin, the doctrine that because of Adam and Eve's sin, all people are born in bondage to sin and stand justly condemned before God. "Through one man sin entered into the world, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men, because all sinned." Romans 5:12. Sin corrupts every aspect of human nature, making mankind totally lacking in spiritual good before God, and totally unable to do anything which is good in His sight. The consequences of sin are not always visible to the sinner, including Christians sinners who are biblically and spiritually ignorant. Christian believers are fully capable of even the most severe sins, but that Christian sin does not change one's legal standing before God. A Christian sin disrupts fellowship with God, bringing about God's fatherly displeasure and will disciplines until they are convicted by the Holy Spirit to repent; God forgives the believer's every sin, but He does not overlook a single one. The greatest love is that which the Persons of the Trinity have for one another. God has true compassionate love for all His creation, and for all people, not taking pleasure in their punishment, and demonstrating that love through His plan of redemption.

It is a pattern of a each Christian believer's life is one of positive righteousness and ethical accountability. A believer's accountability to God increases in strictness on the basis of his doctrinal knowledge and influence (not forcing) on others. I believe that as a believer, I have given up all rights of self-determination and self-reliance in the course of his/her life, and is totally dependent on God for guidance and direction. My faith involves the recognition that God works through small things as well as large ones, and accomplishes great things through small tasks. God's truth is which corresponds to reality, as God perceives it which is objective, universal, and eternal. God's truth about God is entirely unknowable, except in what He chooses to reveal Himself.

I truly believe that it is the duty of all Christians to be able to give a positive defense of their faith, explaining why the gospel is worthy of belief. This is the heart of evangelism. The current division between the haves and have not in this area is a major hinderance to evangelism. I believe that each of us, as an individual, have a responsibility before God, to determine what is true about God and also what is false. What is true about God impacts every aspect of our lives. In 1 Corinthians 13:5 says "Love does not act unbecomingly"; which means a Christian should demonstrate godly love and have real credibility. Our credibility is evangelism. Zealousism means "We win arguments and lose people." Therefore, this is not the place. I would like to thank certain individuals who have woke me up in their posts.

 

[Criada]

Sorry Jim

Both that you are leaving, and that we have failed to show His love more effectively
Please forgive me for what I have contributed to your decision.

We all have a long way to go, but I believe we can learn from one another and grow together here.
Wish you would be a part of that - you will be missed!

God bless you.

 

[Lisa0315]

hmm...Criada, You are a special person with a special heart. I personally think this should have been addressed to whomever Jim is upset with rather than address the whole forum. Now, this post has made you sad and that is just not okay with me.

As for the post, I had planned on ignoring it unless there was a negative reaction to it.

I honestly do not get it. We ain't perfect, but we are a pretty nice group. We have had some rough spots, but like my pastor always says, "Don't judge us by one visit". Well, in this case, I don't think that anyone should judge us on a bad day.

Yeah, there were some upset members here today. Yet, we all came together and lifted each other up. That is just about all that anyone can expect from us.

I think we should also be careful in pointing fingers and stating that if everyone isn't doing what you are doing, then, they are not doing God's will.

We all have different gifts and we are all different parts of the Body. Perhaps some are the fighting arm, and others are quiet, but powerful prayer warriors. Still, others have administrative gifts.

Why do we all need to be the same? I am sorry but I just do not understand.

Lisa

 

[Lisa0315]

...and you know something else???

How do you know that we aren't out there fighting and teaching the truth? I have been doing it for a long, long time. Just because I do not get reported does not mean that I am not doing it "right". It means that I don't have to resort to insults. I have legitimate arguments and relationships with the people I am talking with.

This is really beginning to make me steam...

Lisa