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Take a little wine for your stomach's sake

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Wine, red or white, sweet or dry, contains alcohol in varying amounts. Some Christians eschew all alcoholic drinks. Others do not. Saint Paul's advice to Saint Timothy implies that total prohibition was not on the apostle's mind and the last supper implies that the 12 apostles that Jesus chose did drink alcoholic wine at least at Passover time. So, what is the right stance to take, shall we be prohibitionists or shall we take some wine?
 

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Wine, red or white, sweet or dry, contains alcohol in varying amounts. Some Christians eschew all alcoholic drinks. Others do not. Saint Paul's advice to Saint Timothy implies that total prohibition was not on the apostle's mind and the last supper implies that the 12 apostles that Jesus chose did drink alcoholic wine at least at Passover time. So, what is the right stance to take, shall we be prohibitionists or shall we take some wine?
There was a Seventh Day Adventist vegan named Ellsworth Wareham. He did not smoke or drink any alcohol. He was a heart surgeon who worked into his 90’s. Ellsworth lived to be 104.

Alcohol is a carcinogen. Heavy alcohol use led to early onset dementia. I let them abstain, if that is what they desire. I remember a reformed alcoholic who explained he had to quit drinking because when he drank, he broke out in handcuffs and misdemeanors.
 
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1 Corinthians 6:12 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything"—but I will not be mastered by anything.
 
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Wine, red or white, sweet or dry, contains alcohol in varying amounts. Some Christians eschew all alcoholic drinks. Others do not. Saint Paul's advice to Saint Timothy implies that total prohibition was not on the apostle's mind and the last supper implies that the 12 apostles that Jesus chose did drink alcoholic wine at least at Passover time. So, what is the right stance to take, shall we be prohibitionists or shall we take some wine?
There is quite a difference between having a glass of wine with a meal, and getting regularly trolleyed from drinking too much of it.
 
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There is quite a difference between having a glass of wine with a meal, and
getting regularly trolleyed from drinking too much of it.
"Trolleyed". . .too funny.
 
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The good thing about corgis is if they pass out they don’t have far to fall.
Hey, their legs are not too short. ..they reach the floor, don't they?

(Golly, I miss my two!)
 
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Drinking wine is not a sin, but letting wine control you through addiction and getting drunk is a sin because alcohol becomes a god over you. But having a drink from time to time is not a sin as long as you're not addicted. Catholics use real wine for communion, not grape juice like protestants do. Jesus drank real wine. So wine is not a sin. :)
 
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Theologically, I can agree with Luther on this one ;) BTW, did he actually say that or is it fiction?

I knew he enjoyed drinking- especially his wife's homemade beer
 
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Wine, red or white, sweet or dry, contains alcohol in varying amounts. Some Christians eschew all alcoholic drinks. Others do not. Saint Paul's advice to Saint Timothy implies that total prohibition was not on the apostle's mind and the last supper implies that the 12 apostles that Jesus chose did drink alcoholic wine at least at Passover time. So, what is the right stance to take, shall we be prohibitionists or shall we take some wine?

I think of it as a Romans 14 thing when it comes to Christian behavior, some people are teetotalers, and feel conviction over any alcohol at all, and I guess the thing to do is.. just don't drink around them and be a stumbling block.
But if it's not a conviction to you, sure.. have a little wine or a beer with your meal.

But the same Paul wrote Ephesians 5:18
18 And be not drunk with wine, wherein is excess; but be filled with the Spirit;

A little wine is okay unless it causes a problem particularly for you, but excess is not, it's drunkenness that's the sin (excess alcohol) rather than alcohol consumption in total.
 
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There is nothing wrong with drinking wine (unless you're addicted to alcohol).
Does it have to be wine? I've never cared for it. I've never found any hard liquor I like that I can afford to drink. I like beer, though.

Now as to beverages in general - tea. Beer is for tacos, pizza, and barbecue. Tea is for everything else.
 
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