Taize service?

[OhioMom66]

Could someone please tell me what a Taize service is? One of the LCMS churches near me has this for their 8:30am service. Thanks!

Blessings, Beth

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Here's an article I found on it from the WELS site:

Discover Taizé | Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS)

I've been to one or two and participated in one playing a clarinet. It can be a very meaningful service when done correctly.

 

[OhioMom66]

Thank you, Beckie!

 

[goldbeach]

WELS is doing this?! That's hard to believe. We were doing that 15 years ago in the Charismatic church with the singing in tongues. It put us in the mode. It even says "reformed" and was used in the RIM (Renewal in Missouri) Charismatic movement. Back then they used the innocous phrase "prayer and praise service". I think this is one example of the majority of the WELS people not knowing what's going on. Probably the synod leaders don't know it's going on either. If they do---watch out.



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[PreachersWife2004]

WELS is doing this?! That's hard to believe. We were doing that 15 years ago in the Charismatic church with the singing in tongues. It put us in the mode. It even says "reformed" and was used in the RIM (Renewal in Missouri) Charismatic movement. Back then they used the innocous phrase "prayer and praise service". I think this is one example of the majority of the WELS people not knowing what's going on. Probably the synod leaders don't know it's going on either. If they do---watch out.



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as I pointed out, when done correctly they are wonderful services. There was no speaking in tongues. It is a meditation service basically. Trust me, my uber-conservative husband would not have sanctioned it had it been improper.

 

[goldbeach]

"Since its inception in 1940 by a monastic of the Reformed tradition"
"......they join in: some singing melody, some harmony, some in an entirely different language."
"........allow for personal reflection and meditation."

The above quotes are pulled from the WELS site so maybe they have a different explanation for it. All I know is when RIM did this they used the exact same format and it was definitely a Charismatic movement. I belonged to the movement years ago within the LCMS and it was used as a steping stone to a vast exit of people in the Lutheran chruch to other non-denom, CHarismatic, AoG, reformed churches. I knew Joyce Meyer and her husband Dave and they were a product of this movement. They helped form the Taize style service and over ther years incorporated many contemporary songs and feel good philosophy. In the beginning it was all Lutheran but over the years it changed considerably. Nobody has to believe me but I fell for it to and experienced it for years. Just be careful.



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[seajoy]

No taizing in any WELS church I've ever been in.

 

[PreachersWife2004]

GB, it's not a movement, it's a worship service.

Any service, when done incorrectly, can be a stumbling block. If reformed churches were using the Divine Service incorrectly, would you be wary of it?

Taize services are not done regularly and they do not replace liturgical Sunday morning services. They are simply meditation services, mostly with music.

 

[Luther073082]

Why it is when ever I see the word Taize I think of this??

 

[PreachersWife2004]

Trust me, it's not just you.

Why it is when ever I see the word Taize I think of this??

 

[seajoy]

In what year was this taize service's inception? Not in the WELS, I mean....the very first ones and where were they begun?

 

[goldbeach]

GB, it's not a movement, it's a worship service.

Any service, when done incorrectly, can be a stumbling block. If reformed churches were using the Divine Service incorrectly, would you be wary of it?

Taize services are not done regularly and they do not replace liturgical Sunday morning services. They are simply meditation services, mostly with music.

Yep----that's how it started. Did it on Saturday nights occasionally. It was just considered a supplement to Lutheran fellowship and eventually influenced and infiltrated the LCMS. It was a major influence in forming the RIM (Charismatic) movement in Missouri.

 

[alexnbethmom]

to be perfectly honest, i got the major heebie-jeebies reading about that, and it sounds like something to stay far, far away from.....

 

[seajoy]

Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod (WELS) -

The WELS gives this description. What it does not say is what language it's in, such as some holy language or Latin or something. The description is vague from what I can tell.

 

[Tangible]

When I was first discovering liturgical worship I discovered Taizé and was very interested. It seemed like a blend of the contemporary worship style I had been used to with historical, liturgical content.

As I grew to have a better understanding of Confessional Lutheran worship, I also grew to be more and more suspect of the contemplative aspect of their worship, and also their ecumenism.

In a way, I was correct with my first impression, though. The problem is, they take historical, liturgical content and use it in the same mystical fashion as contemporary worship leaders use their modern style and content.

 

[Bryne]

Is mysticism always wrong?

 

[seajoy]

Is mysticism always wrong?

mysteries or mysticism. I look at them as 2 different things.

 

[Zecryphon]

WELS is doing this?! That's hard to believe. We were doing that 15 years ago in the Charismatic church with the singing in tongues. It put us in the mode. It even says "reformed" and was used in the RIM (Renewal in Missouri) Charismatic movement. Back then they used the innocous phrase "prayer and praise service". I think this is one example of the majority of the WELS people not knowing what's going on. Probably the synod leaders don't know it's going on either. If they do---watch out.



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I'm WELS too and I've never heard of this kind of service. The article explains what this type of service is, but I don't see any endorsement from WELS as a whole that this is seeing wide-spread use in our churches. The article mentions that this type of service will be used at Atonement church through 2004.

 

[seajoy]

The article explains what this type of service is, but I don't see any endorsement from WELS as a whole that this is seeing wide-spread use in our churches. The article mentions that this type of service will be used at Atonement church through 2004.

I just noticed that too.

 

[Zecryphon]

I just noticed that too.

I can ask around and see if this has picked up momentum since '04, though. Never hurts to be on the lookout for dangerous teachings and practices trying to get into our churches and synod.