Taco Belluminati

[Albion]

Yeah, we wouldn't want to make a joke of conspiracy theorists.

We moon-dwelling lizard people have better things to do. I mean we're so busy with the whole cabal of Jewish bankers, faking moon landings, making globes to trick everyone that the earth is round, the Vatican, the Luciferian Atheist Muslim Alliance of Evil Democrats, the Legion of Doom, and that super computer that is tracking the name of every Bible Believing Christian™ so we know who sacrifice to Cthulhu who will rise from his slumber beneath the sea to consume all mortal flesh.

It's busy work.

Yeh, there's plenty of work to do--telling people that they had better worry, but nothing beyond that.

And it's easy, too. I just became an expert myself by posting this comment!

 

[Albion]

It's fascinating how super "secret" conspiracies feel the need to announce their identity in the most public way--on pop cans, for instance--so that conspiracy fans can know their "secrets" and who they are.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

I was wondering if the new ad campaign would stir controversy.

Looks like it has.

...it's all about following the "money trail," whether in jest or in earnest.

 

[Albion]

What "money trail?" For that matter, "what money?" Are you referring to the Monster beverage company or to the Masons? The average Masonic lodge is in dire straits just trying to pay the property taxes on the building with profits from yard sales and Saturday night dinners open to the public.

 

[2PhiloVoid]

What "money trail?" For that matter, "what money?" The average Masonic lodge is in dire straits just trying to pay the property taxes on the building with profits from yard sales and Saturday night dinners open to the public...and yet we are supposed to believe that there's a "money trail??"

I don't think I mentioned anything about the Masons here, Albion. I'm simply making an inference that the love of Mammon can be manifested in a cultic way in a variety of cultural and economic expressions. Whether there really is or is not a Secret Illuminati is incidental. The point is that even though Taco Bell is just playing around with the Mammon Mantra, it still isn't something I'd congratulate them on.

 

[GeorgeJ]

What "money trail?" For that matter, "what money?" The average Masonic lodge is in dire straits just trying to pay the property taxes on the building with profits from yard sales and Saturday night dinners open to the public...and yet we are supposed to believe that there's a "money trail??"

I believe by "money trail" he is referring to Taco Bell poking fun at conspiracy theorists to hopefully gain more "eaters" at their restaurants, thus making more $$$.

Now, I don't know about that...it certainly didn't make me want to go munch at Taco Bell....but I gotta admit, it's funny.......and one more thing for conspiracy theorists to rant about......

 

[Albion]

I don't think I mentioned anything about the Masons here, Albion. I'm simply making an inference that the love of Mammon can be manifested in a cultic way in a variety of cultural and economic ways. Whether there really is or is not a Secret Illuminati is incidental; even though Taco Bell is just playing around with the Mammon Mantra, it still isn't something I'd congratulate them on.

Easy now. I think my post allowed that it wasn't clear to me exactly what your remark was referring to. Both you and George must have begun typing your replies while I was editing mine, however. That's just one of those things that occasionally happens here.

 

[Rion]

Exactly.

This is a textbook case of hiding things in plain sight, using public incredulity to substantiate the veil. It is meant to be a slap in the face of people who know about these things, because on one hand we know the group is powerful and damaging, but on the other hand no one will believe the truth of it all. They cant.

And, it isn't totally their fault; someone has to be an agent of the incredulous lot in order to later have the set-up, predictive experience of saying, "Why didn't anyone warn us?" - only to realize the "crazies picketing were right all along." This is a repetitive game exploiting the psychosis (Stockholm Syndrome), gullibility, programmable potential, complacency and ignorance of a population. We read history today, and admonish the people of the past who are doing the exact same thing as the agents of incredulity do today. Again, they must do it.

Although, the illuminaughty is the WEAKEST and YOUNGEST of alleged "powers that be." There are much more insidious and powerful "occult" groups controlling the world; many more people pay homage to them without knowledge because they don't even believe they are part of a nefarious, very old order.

The commercial works famously to keep the veil thick and opaque.

 

[Dave-W]

She probably meant the Monster energy drink!

Nah. That would only be 18.

Since tav is the highest value at 400, you would need either a tav and a resh (200) or 2 shins (at 300) plus samek at 60 and then the vav at 6.

The number is six hundred sixty six, not just 3 digits of 6.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Nah. That would only be 18.

Since tav is the highest value at 400, you would need either a tav and a resh (200) or 2 shins (at 300) plus samek at 60 and then the vav at 6.

The number is six hundred sixty six, not just 3 digits of 6.

I don't even know that it'd be 18. 18 would require a 10+8, meaning yod+het. Three vavs would just be three vavs, having no meaning whatsoever. At least if writing down a numerical value on its own. I could be wrong here.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Ancient of Days]

Its not their advertising I am concerned about. Its there product they call food. That garbage is one molecule away from being Styrofoam, maybe closer...

 

[ViaCrucis]

She probably meant the Monster energy drink!

As already mentioned by Dave W, that isn't how Hebrew numbers work. Hebrew numerals are additive. Thus to get the number six hundred and sixty-six you'd need to take the numeric values for 600+60+6. Also as Dave mentioned, there is no 600 as the highest value is 400, thus requiring combining 400+200 (which would be a tav+resh). As such to use Hebrew numerals to get 666 you have to write tav+resh+samekh+vav, which gets us: (400+200)+60+6 = 666.

And, yes, the number is six hundred and sixty-six, not six, six, six. The number John wrote about in the Apocalypse is six hundred and sixty-six, or in some manuscripts six hundred and sixteen. Because the number here isn't mystical or magical; John was intentionally being cryptic by using a numerical code instead of speaking the person's name directly as he says very explicitly that the number is a person's name.

"This calls for wisdom: let anyone with understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a person. Its number is six hundred sixty-six." - Revelation 13:18

The only person, in history, that fits the bill in which it is in anyway meaningful is Nero.

Numerically NERON KAISER gets us six hundred and sixty-six, while NERO KAISER gets us six hundred and sixteen.

NERON from Greek. NERO from Latin. Converting these into Hebrew numerals gets us:

NRWN QSR and NRW QSR respectively.

Nun = 50
Resh = 200
Vav = 6
Nun = 50

Qof = 100
Samekh = 60
Resh = 200

50+200+6+50+100+60+200 = 666

Remove the final Nun so that it is NRW QSR then simply subtract 50.

Nun = 50
Resh = 200
Vav = 6

Qof = 100
Samekh = 60
Resh = 200

50+200+6+100+60+200 = 616

Now this may not be what John had in mind, but it's the best explanation I've ever come across to make sense of the text and which doesn't go into long nutty theories and/or simply making things up altogether.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Dave-W]

I don't even know that it'd be 18. 18 would require a 10+8, meaning yod+het. Three vavs would just be three vavs, having no meaning whatsoever. At least if writing down a numerical value on its own. I could be wrong here.

-CryptoLutheran

The way gematria works is you sum all of the numeric values for the letters. 6+6+6=18

 

[2PhiloVoid]

As already mentioned by Dave W, that isn't how Hebrew numbers work. Hebrew numerals are additive. Thus to get the number six hundred and sixty-six you'd need to take the numeric values for 600+60+6. Also as Dave mentioned, there is no 600 as the highest value is 400, thus requiring combining 400+200 (which would be a tav+resh). As such to use Hebrew numerals to get 666 you have to write tav+resh+samekh+vav, which gets us: (400+200)+60+6 = 666.

And, yes, the number is six hundred and sixty-six, not six, six, six. The number John wrote about in the Apocalypse is six hundred and sixty-six, or in some manuscripts six hundred and sixteen. Because the number here isn't mystical or magical; John was intentionally being cryptic by using a numerical code instead of speaking the person's name directly as he says very explicitly that the number is a person's name.

"This calls for wisdom: let anyone with understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a person. Its number is six hundred sixty-six." - Revelation 13:18

The only person, in history, that fits the bill in which it is in anyway meaningful is Nero.

Numerically NERON KAISER gets us six hundred and sixty-six, while NERO KAISER gets us six hundred and sixteen.

NERON from Greek. NERO from Latin. Converting these into Hebrew numerals gets us:

NRWN QSR and NRW QSR respectively.

Nun = 50
Resh = 200
Vav = 6
Nun = 50

Qof = 100
Samekh = 60
Resh = 200

50+200+6+50+100+60+200 = 666

Remove the final Nun so that it is NRW QSR then simply subtract 50.

Nun = 50
Resh = 200
Vav = 6

Qof = 100
Samekh = 60
Resh = 200

50+200+6+100+60+200 = 616

Now this may not be what John had in mind, but it's the best explanation I've ever come across to make sense of the text and which doesn't go into long nutty theories and/or simply making things up altogether.

-CryptoLutheran

Actually, I think there's a better hermeneutical explanation, and it essentially places the identification upon King Solomon rather than Nero. Once we get rid of all of these assumptions about 'gematria,' we'll all probably begin to see the forest for the trees a bit more clearly.

 

[durangodawood]

"Energy" drinks ARE evil.