Sure to cause an uproar, but hey

[FundamentalistJohn]

There's an obsession with sex and homosexuality that defies reason ...particularly if one is a Christian it would seem. The first thing a Christian thinks when they hear the word 'homosexual' is 'sex'.

To be fair it probably has a lot to do with the fact that the word sex is part of the word homosexual. Almost all humans not just Christians are wired that way, verbal communication (and written for that matter) involves visualization. I am willing to bet that the same is true of the word heterosexual.

 

[brightmorningstar]

To KCKID,
There seems to be communication breakdown at the heart of so much of this debate.

The first thing a Christian thinks when they hear the word 'homosexual' is 'sex'.

The word homosexuality has sex in it so the first thing a Christian thinks of is what the word says. It would be somewhat outside reality to think of something else.

For the Christian there is no such thing as homosexual and heterosexual. God made woman for man to be in union and sex outside that union is error (pornos) Gen 2, Matt 19.

 

[brightmorningstar]

Posted my reponse just after FundamentalistJohn's
At least we both think the same

 

[FundamentalistJohn]

Posted my reponse just after FundamentalistJohn's
At least we both think the same

 

[Inviolable]

Is it hateful to tell an African American “I understand scripture to say that racial equality is a sin."?

it hateful to tell an African American that one worries about his/her salvation because he/she defies the word of God by pretending to be equal to whites?

Is it hateful to be heterosexual?
The idea that makes the assumption, a homosexual act is abnormal isn't prejudice. It can be construed as prejudice but only to those who don't have the capability to understand sexual orientation. Or rather to someone who is making a desperate attempt to twist reality to fit their own needs.

 

[Andreusz]

To KCKID,
There seems to be communication breakdown at the heart of so much of this debate.
The word homosexuality has sex in it so the first thing a Christian thinks of is what the word says. It would be somewhat outside reality to think of something else.

For the Christian there is no such thing as homosexual and heterosexual. God made woman for man to be in union and sex outside that union is error (pornos) Gen 2, Matt 19.

Would it be easier for you if we called ourselves homophiles?

 

[Dogbean]

I'd love to know others thoughts about this.

Is homosexuality a "worse" sin than any other sexually immoral sin?

If you believe it is-why?

In God's eyes, sin is sin. Anything unholy or unpleasing to God is sin. I just think people get really charged up about homosexuality and gay marriage, partially since it's such a political issue too.

 

[BigBadWlf]

I did answer your question, immediately above the post I am quoting here.

My answer is basically these comments could be used by people who hate African Americans but they could just as easily be used by people who are simply ignorant. Being ignorant may not be pretty, but it sure isn't hateful. So without knowing the context and the person using the comments it is impossible to say that the comments are or are not hateful.

I also pointed out that there is a difference between a behavior (the choice of who and what type a sex a person has) and race. I also discounted your belief that people hate African Americans because they think they are equal, most Sociological studies I have read on the issue come to the conclusion that the hatred is based on a perceived inferiority. These studies also agree with my own personal experience. So I will accept them as accurate unless overwhelming evidence can be presented to prove otherwise.

I would also like to make it clear that I believe there is overwhelming evidence that homosexual orientation is not a choice one makes.

I think that pretty much covers my answer. Just because you don't like the answer don't claim that one wasn't given.

No you didn’t answer. You avoided, you attempted to redefine and you attempted to justify yourselves while at the same time distancing yourself from racists. Saying (without saying) that the same statements used against one minority are somehow magically not hateful when directed against another.

 

[BigBadWlf]

In God's eyes, sin is sin. Anything unholy or unpleasing to God is sin. I just think people get really charged up about homosexuality and gay marriage, partially since it's such a political issue too.

And that is why eating shellfish is strictly forbidden in Christina cultures
And that is why no good Christian shaves
Or cuts their hair
Or wears wedding rings
Or allows people who need glasses into church
Or wears clothing made of two different fabrics
Because sin is sin

 

[FundamentalistJohn]

No you didn’t answer. You avoided, you attempted to redefine and you attempted to justify yourselves while at the same time distancing yourself from racists. Saying (without saying) that the same statements used against one minority are somehow magically not hateful when directed against another.

No I said that those statements could indicate hatred but not necessarily. I stand by that. It is entirely possible that someone could utter those statements from ignorance instead of hate.

By the way I didn't redefine anything. I made a distinction between behavior and race. There is clearly a difference between who one is and what one does.