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just wondering is suicide a sin?
i mean - will you go to hell for commiting suicide?
i mean - will you go to hell for commiting suicide?
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This is an issue that seems to split people into two groups. Some believe you go to hell because when you commit suicide you are doing the same thing as saying "God, you can't fix this so I'm just going to kill myself." They believe that you deny God's power with this act, and take matters into your own hands. Others believe those who commit suicide are so out of touch with reality that God will have mercy on them. He will see their desperation and pain, and forgive.
I don't know which school of thought I believe, but I don't think suicide is a solution, nor do I think anyone should ever consider it as an option. If one is of such a clear state of mind that one can ask oneself if suicide is a sin, then I think one can realize that God can fix things.
I don't dare speak about the salvation of those who have committed suicide. That's between God and them. But for those who are alive, I would never ever recommend suicide.
I don't know which school of thought I believe, but I don't think suicide is a solution, nor do I think anyone should ever consider it as an option. If one is of such a clear state of mind that one can ask oneself if suicide is a sin, then I think one can realize that God can fix things.
I don't dare speak about the salvation of those who have committed suicide. That's between God and them. But for those who are alive, I would never ever recommend suicide.
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We were taught in school that suicide was a sin like murder, in the sense that only God can give and take a life. By that reasoning, your life was created by God and you have no right to destroy it. Unfortunately, doses of guilt and fear are not helpful for somebody who is depressed and at the end of their rope.
Your emotional icon says you are depressed, so I would guess that your question is not born of purely theological curiosity.
If you have depression to the point of contemplating suicide, I would ask you to consider consulting a doctor, if you have not already done so. If your need is really urgent, you can call the Samaritans any time on 0845 7909090, or just call them to talk, even if you aren't contemplating suicide immediately.
But please seek help before you attempt any kind of self-harm, Normal - many people who survive suicidal attempts are glad they did, but some don't get that second chance...
Your emotional icon says you are depressed, so I would guess that your question is not born of purely theological curiosity.
If you have depression to the point of contemplating suicide, I would ask you to consider consulting a doctor, if you have not already done so. If your need is really urgent, you can call the Samaritans any time on 0845 7909090, or just call them to talk, even if you aren't contemplating suicide immediately.
But please seek help before you attempt any kind of self-harm, Normal - many people who survive suicidal attempts are glad they did, but some don't get that second chance...
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Though I personally reject outright any question of 'sinfulness', because I do not believe in such a concept, I can see why, theologically, it is important. And why it is relevant and important for a great number of individuals.
However, in this case, I do not believe the question should be considered. Though, in theoretical theological terms, it could be argued that such a question is relevant and makes sense, I think the damage that such a question does is far too great to warrant its consideration.
If someone is depressed to the point of contemplating suicide, then whether or not it is a sin should not even be mentioned as an issue. To burden people that have a serious clinical disorder--albeit a common and cureable one--with fear of hell, guilt and further self-doubt is a highly irresponsible act of great evil and cruelty.
If one is contemplating suicide, the question is 'how can I get help?' and absolutely not 'is suicide a sin?'
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However, in this case, I do not believe the question should be considered. Though, in theoretical theological terms, it could be argued that such a question is relevant and makes sense, I think the damage that such a question does is far too great to warrant its consideration.
If someone is depressed to the point of contemplating suicide, then whether or not it is a sin should not even be mentioned as an issue. To burden people that have a serious clinical disorder--albeit a common and cureable one--with fear of hell, guilt and further self-doubt is a highly irresponsible act of great evil and cruelty.
If one is contemplating suicide, the question is 'how can I get help?' and absolutely not 'is suicide a sin?'
peace
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While I believe suicide is sin (as in, not in God's plan for anyone), I also do not believe it any more or less sinful than gluttony, gossip, or extra-marital sex. Sin is sin and separates us from God. If someone has made a relationship with God, their sin is forgiven (I believe in "Once Saved, Always Saved").
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