suicide?

[softballpenny]

dont worry i am not going to commit suicide. i was just wondering if christian people who commited suicide go to hell or heaven

 

[NTGRTY]

HI, I was really shocked that the 5 people who viewed this before me didn't reply, especially after seeeing your age. Please allow me to explain a few things.

A) Suicide is murder of the self. Murder is a sin. You are unable to repent after committing this sin. An unrepentant sinner is destined for Hell.

B) This answer should not be good enough for you. Although you are not my child I am bound by Christ to teach you the truth. There are two main schools of thought on this issue. One side believes in eternal security (once you are saved, you will always be saved) the other believes it is necessary to repent of your sins more than once (you can lose your salvation).

C) Never Never Never take mine or anyone else's word for it. Consult the Bible and PRAY for guidance. Then share it with people. Here are some scriptures both sides use to support their argument.

Ephesians 2:8-9 Romans 8:37-39 John 5:24 John 10:27-29 1 John 5:11-13 Mat 6:12-15 James 1:21,22 1 Tim 1:18-20 1 Pet 3:11,12 Eph 5:5-7

 

[HeartFullaLove]

"No murderer will enter in."

 

[artjack]

I think people who do are sick, it is not for us to judge them, dont wory about them, they are lost, think of something else happier. tell someone if you feel low. dont run away from things you are strong & have faith in jesus.

 

[bliz]

I believe that we will all die with unrepented sin in our lives, if only because we are so sinful, we often do not see the sin in our lives, and so we don't repent.

Imagine if while riding in your car you say something mean to a sibling. That is a sin. And right as you finish speaking, you are killed in a car accident. I do not believe that if you are a Christian, you will go to hell. You are under His blood, and from the point of your conversion on, you are covered with the blood of Jesus and therefore acceptable to God, and all of your sins, past and future, are forgiven from that point on.

That does not mean that we should casually sin - we well be accountable after death for our sins, and here on earth, our sins seperate us from God and strain our relationjship with Him and make us inelligable for many of His blessings. I believe suicide is a sin, and worst of all, one that harms so many other people, often quite seriously! But I do not beliee it is an unpardonable sin or that it will keep us out of heaven.

 

[softballpenny]

like i said. dont worry i am the last person i know to commit suicide. thanx! ill look up the verses

 

[ebia]

dont worry i am not going to commit suicide. i was just wondering if christian people who commited suicide go to hell or heaven

I can't believe that a God who loves us is going to eternally damn someone because they could not see how to carry on in life.

 

[Overcomer2002]

Commiting suicide is not the unpardonable sin. You have already committed the unpardonable sin before you commit suicide. You have already told God that you hate your life, you hate who you are, and there is no way you will allow or want God to fix the problem. It is the most self centered act anyone can do. In committing suicide you have already told God: I don't want you, your creation or your plan. Committing suicide is THE RESULT, THE CONCLUSION, TO COMMITTING THE UNPARDONABLE SIN.


Sincerely

 

[ebia]

Commiting suicide is not the unpardonable sin. You have already committed the unpardonable sin before you commit suicide. You have already told God that you hate your life, you hate who you are, and there is no way you will allow or want God to fix the problem. It is the most self centered act anyone can do. In committing suicide you have already told God: I don't want you, your creation or your plan. Committing suicide is THE RESULT, THE CONCLUSION, TO COMMITTING THE UNPARDONABLE SIN.


Sincerely

What a terribly judgemental thing to say.

People tend to commit suicide because they are so blinded by despair that they can't see what else to do. In some cases they are also mentally ill, temporarily or chronically.

 

[HeartFullaLove]

Commiting suicide is not the unpardonable sin. You have already committed the unpardonable sin before you commit suicide. You have already told God that you hate your life, you hate who you are, and there is no way you will allow or want God to fix the problem. It is the most self centered act anyone can do. In committing suicide you have already told God: I don't want you, your creation or your plan. Committing suicide is THE RESULT, THE CONCLUSION, TO COMMITTING THE UNPARDONABLE SIN.


Sincerely

You are right about it being selfish. It also denotes unbelief. Suicide and the selfishness and unbelief it is rooted in ARE pardonable -- if you have the time to ask forgiveness. However, that is unlikely. Basically you are saying God (and life) owes you better than what you've got -- pride, because all of us deserve death and Hell. Self-pity is still SELF. Often there is a lot of "I'll show THEM" mixed into the motive.

 

[Overcomer2002]

What a terribly judgemental thing to say.

People tend to commit suicide because they are so blinded by despair that they can't see what else to do. In some cases they are also mentally ill, temporarily or chronically.

Any scripture references for YOUR comment?

Sincerely

 

[bliz]

In committing suicide you have already told God: I don't want you, your creation or your plan. Committing suicide is THE RESULT, THE CONCLUSION, TO COMMITTING THE UNPARDONABLE SIN.

Do you have any scripture references that saying to God: "I don't want you or your creation." is the unpardonable sin?

 

[ebia]

Any scripture references for YOUR comment?

Sincerely

If you really think it needs one, try the first half of Matthew chapter 7.

But the more important half of the comment is a statement of fact. You comment on the motivations of people, but you do so without knowing what you are talking about. You have looked at someone's actions, jumped to a (most unlikely) conclusion about their motivation, and then judged them on that. God help you when you come to be judged.

 

[Overcomer2002]

If you really think it needs one,



Just as I thought, you have NO scripture references.

Sincerely

 

[ebia]

If you really think it needs one,



Just as I thought, you have NO scripture references.

Sincerely

I can't provide a biblical reference that says what time the last train leaves Paddington for Plymouth on a saturday either. Asking for a biblical reference is a red herring.

 

[Overcomer2002]

I can't provide a biblical reference that says what time the last train leaves Paddington for Plymouth on a saturday either. Asking for a biblical reference is a red herring.

YUP !!! A red herring !!!!

 

[Everlastinglife]

II Corinthians 4:8-9 "We are pressed on every side by troubles, but not crushed and broken. We are perplexed because we don't know why things happen as they do, but we don't give up and quit. We are hunted down, but God never abandons us. We get knocked down, but we get up again and keep going."

Luke 12:6-7, "What is the price of five sparrows? A couple of pennies? Not much more than that. Yet God does not forget a single one of them. And he knows the number of hairs on your head! Never fear, you are far more valuable to Him than a whole flock of sparrows."

May God Bless you.

 

[Harlan Norris]

Arthur Miller,the playwrite,was married to Marilyn Monroe.After one of her escapades,she attempted suicide.Aurther Miller said "don't you realize,suicide kills two people"? To which she replied, "that's what it's for".

 

[EastChief]

Arthur Miller,the playwrite,was married to Marilyn Monroe.After one of her escapades,she attempted suicide.Aurther Miller said "don't you realize,suicide kills two people"? To which she replied, "that's what it's for".

I don't know if Marilyn Monroe would be the best example of a person to represent the reason eveyone commits suicide. (I know you didn't say that exactly, but that's how it sounds.)

I have a question for everyone here who thinks it is selfish, it is an unpardonable sin, and you are doing it to hurt others - Have you ever thought about suicide; ever?

Well, I have. I never planned to do it (like getting poison readily accesible or having a gun next to me) and never really got close, but I did think about it several times (not lately). You have no idea how a person feels or what they are going through. It was usually after many weeks (or months) of agonizing over life situations which seemed like they would never change. I do think the only reason I did not pursue it further was because I am a Christian and I did worry about going to hell. If I did not believe in hell, I might be dead now. (Actually, on many occasions I prayed hard for God to take me.)

This is really hard to put into words, and this is the only time I've ever talked about it. I'm glad it never got further than thinking about it, and if I still was thinking about it I would seek help. I just think it is important for a person who has thought about it to speak up. If anyone has any questions, I'll be happy to answer.

 

[HeartFullaLove]

I don't know if Marilyn Monroe would be the best example of a person to represent the reason eveyone commits suicide. (I know you didn't say that exactly, but that's how it sounds.)

I have a question for everyone here who thinks it is selfish, it is an unpardonable sin, and you are doing it to hurt others - Have you ever thought about suicide; ever?

Well, I have. I never planned to do it (like getting poison readily accesible or having a gun next to me) and never really got close, but I did think about it several times (not lately). You have no idea how a person feels or what they are going through. It was usually after many weeks (or months) of agonizing over life situations which seemed like they would never change. I do think the only reason I did not pursue it further was because I am a Christian and I did worry about going to hell. If I did not believe in hell, I might be dead now. (Actually, on many occasions I prayed hard for God to take me.)

This is really hard to put into words, and this is the only time I've ever talked about it. I'm glad it never got further than thinking about it, and if I still was thinking about it I would seek help. I just think it is important for a person who has thought about it to speak up. If anyone has any questions, I'll be happy to answer.

The only unpardonable sin is blasphemy against the Holy Ghost -- which is another topic. However, there are unpardoned sins. If one's last act is murder and one does not ask forgiveness before the death occurs, the Scripture is plain, "No murderer will enter in."

I had considered suicide several times when I was unsaved and a lot younger. I was driven by selfisness, cowardice, and revenge. In either event, I was not driven by the kind of insanity that would render one incapable of being ablet to distinguish good from evil. Even if one is, one must understand that people usually arrive at that state THROUGH THIER OWN SINFUL CHOICES. One of my daughters was such and, by the grace of God, failed in her suicide attempts and was later delivered of the demons and dementia that drove her. Had she succeeded, I would think she would have been in Hell today as her insanity camde as a direct result of sinful choices made in her past.

God is just. If someone were to have had serious brain damage before the age of accountability and had made a decision to suicide while unable to know good and evil, God would judge accordingly. However, to simply judge that people are NOT in Hell from suicide because of the pressures of life is to give encouragement to any potential suicide reading it.