Suicide - When does it become a sin?

[Rock of Ages]

People whom are thinking about killing themselves, are in deep pain, they are hurting alot, that's all i have to say for now!!!!

 

[Dive]

Firstly, I dont think your ever beyong salvation if your a Christian, but thats not really relavant right now.

I don't think theres a singular point where it becomes a sin: I think its the senitment behind the action. The self hate etc.

 

[Dust and Ashes]

I AGREE WITH JANELLE! our teacher realy made suicide seem liek a good thing, and I was thinking, if Heaven is so amazing, and I will get there anyways, why dont I just commit suicide now to save going through rough times? if I knwo im going to heaven, commiting suiceide means nothign to me, its just he quickest way to get to the most amazing place in my dreams....suicide is wrong, your killing somehitng. its murder. just like abortion and murdering somone else. whats the differnt between killing yourself or someone else?

How can you "finish the race" if call a cab to take you to the winner's circle?

On kind of a side note, what if I roll my car on a lonely stretch of highway at 3am with little to no hope of someone coming along soon and it catches fire? I'm pinned inside with the certainty of a horrible death by burning. Would it be the same thing to take my pistol and shoot myself rather than burn to death?

I think of this regarding a story my uncle (a trucker) tells of being at the scene of an accident where the guy was pinned in his burning vehicle and was begging the state trooper on the scene to shoot him as he was slowly burning to death.

 

[Dive]

Off the plot slightly, what happended to the trucker?

 

[BlessEwe]

Just as a dieing person can be saved after never living a christian life. You never know what goes on seconds before someone who killed themselfs.

 

[Svt4Him]

Those who are adamant that a person who takes his life is committing a mortal sin, and will go to hell, are basing their belief on church doctrine rather than on the Bible. Scripture is silent on the subject. There are no verses that say "He who takes his own life shall be damned." According to Scripture, only one sin does not have forgiveness, and that is blasphemy of the Holy Spirit (see Mark 3:29 footnote). That means there is forgiveness for every other sin.

Some quote 1 Corinthians 3:17, which says that God will destroy someone who "defiles" the temple of the Holy Spirit. Yet, there is disagreement about what it means to defile the temple. Does this include suicide? Does it include illicit drug abuse (slow suicide), prescription drug abuse, cigarettes (deliberately breathing in poisons that will eventually kill), tattoos, over-eating (digging a grave with your spoon), or alcohol abuse?

God forbid that we add to the pain of someone who has lost a loved one through the tragedy of suicide, by making a judgment about their eternal destiny. God is the ultimate Judge, and we should therefore leave the issue in His hands. It would be wise to follow the biblical example and not come to any verdict in the case of suicide.

 

[Dust and Ashes]

Off the plot slightly, what happended to the trucker?

He went home to my aunt.

The poor guy in the car burned to death though. The trooper wouldn't shoot him or give him the gun to shoot himself so they had to stand there while he burned. Actually, I think my uncle walked away as he couldn't stand hearing the guy screaming. He wasn't involved in the accident so I think I would have driven away if possible.

 

[theseed]

Murder is not an unforgivable sin, and niether is suicide.

 

[Staind]

If I committed suicide for the sole purpose that I wanted to take away from myself something that God gave me then I would say yes that is a sin.
If I committed suicide to end overbearing pain and agony I would say no.

 

[Dive]

If I committed suicide for the sole purpose that I wanted to take away from myself something that God gave me then I would say yes that is a sin.
If I committed suicide to end overbearing pain and agony I would say no.

A fair point, but isen't the sentiment still the same?


And thanks for telling forgivensinner001

 

[hereIam2Worship]

suicide is like murdering ur self...thou shalt not kill...also...your body is the temple of God...if u kill ur self or anybody else for that matter...its like killing God...but sometimes the hurt and the pain u feel inside...is too much to bear...but in reality...suicide doesn't take it away...it still remains..the hurt and the pain...suicide doesn't solve anything...its only and escape...u have to tackle ur problems...and if ur having a hard time doing that...then talk to us...thats y we're here...

 

[TheMainException]

Now please dont anyone think i am suicidal or anything, this is a purely academic inquirery.

Now by my understanding of the bible, to take the life of a human is a mortal sin, something you go to hell for right? That includes ones own life, since who are you to take what God has given? Now, if one ends ones own life, then you die with an unforgiven mortal sin, and so go to hell, but i wonder... when exactly does it become a sin? Is it when you inflict the deadly wound, such as slitting your wrists or such like, or is it only at the moment of death that the sin is commited? Is there truly no hope for salvation for a suicide victim?

If you are a saved soul, a new creation, you will go to heaven no matter what (there is one way, but I won't go into that here). You will still go to heaven if you kill yourself in my view of being saved by Christ's blood. But I think that it becomes a sin when you slit your wrists. It is a sin to kill someone, is it also a sin(in my eyes) to cut someone, including yourself. There is hope for salvation for a suicide victim...before they are dead...after that no, not at all. They are dead.

 

[TheMainException]

Just as a dieing person can be saved after never living a christian life. You never know what goes on seconds before someone who killed themselfs.

So right.

 

[Staind]

A fair point, but isen't the sentiment still the same?

Arguably yes, but I think if someone honestly just feels that they can't cope with life anymore and have put their faith in God they will be saved. People go through hard times and do stuff they wouldn't normally do. My conclusion is that it's solely based on intent. I know a few people who commit suicide because they feel they are a burden to others and want their loved ones to live a good life.

 

[hereIam2Worship]

I wonder...Is allowing a person to kill you the same as suicide? If so...did Jesus commit suicide? I'm just wondering, and i'm not trying to stir up something

 

[Faith In God]

Just a point:
Scripture is silent on this subject, so be forwarned.

 

[lister4ever]

I wonder...Is allowing a person to kill you the same as suicide? If so...did Jesus commit suicide? I'm just wondering, and i'm not trying to stir up something

now that is a very interesting point, something i hadnt thought of before. Hmmm, intruiging. Perhaps it is only suicide if you compel others to kill you, rather than just letting them. I dont really know whether complacency in the face of death counts as a suicide.

 

[Snowy]

Suicide is killing yourself..which is murder..so it is always a sin

 

[Faith In God]

now that is a very interesting point, something i hadnt thought of before. Hmmm, intruiging. Perhaps it is only suicide if you compel others to kill you, rather than just letting them. I dont really know whether complacency in the face of death counts as a suicide.

no. it's not. we are not supposed to resist an evil person, and if that person intends to kill us, and we can't get away, we aren't supposed to fight. suicide? no, the person who kills is the killer, and the person who dies is the victem.

 

[Faith In God]

Suicide is killing yourself..which is murder..so it is always a sin

careful. the bible doesn't really say anything about this subject, so don't just say to people who know successful suicidals that they are in hell.


You might be right, but I still uphold my point.

PS. wow. an instance of judging that Jesus actuallyspoke against, and no one said anything...