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[inchristalone221]

You must all read Mere Christianity, Book 3, Chapter 6 (Christian Marriage)

That is all.

 

[awesome liver]

You're implying that essential human nature and the fundamentals of human interaction have somehow changed on a supra-cultural level? Human beings are the same today that they were when the Bible was written, and God's plan for marriage and other relationships between men and women have not changed until He says they have changed. The analogy may not be perfect, but it isn't horrific. To continue my analogy, there is no new .

of course we have. people no longer have the want nor need to depend solely on religious beliefs to function in daily life. our institutions are no longer tied to churches in secular cultures. we no longer crucify people -- that's a biggy. we are no longer agrarian societies in terms of developed nations. people are less confined to those cultural norms of antiquity. God doesn't exist to everybody and no matter how much you would like for it, we live in a secular world.

 

[inchristalone221]

God doesn't exist to everybody

He actually does. Whether one acknowledges his existence or not, God certainly does exist.

of course we have. people no longer have the want nor need to depend solely on religious beliefs to function in daily life. our institutions are no longer tied to churches in secular cultures.

Well I suppose that in regard to the issues of courtship and marriage these cultural differences are significant. Then again, I suppose they also expain the divorce rates and suicide rates pretty well.

 

[melandshanetria]

Well I suppose that in regard to the issues of courtship and marriage these cultural differences are significant. Then again, I suppose they also expain the divorce rates and suicide rates pretty well.

Good point! Whether people acknowledge his existence or not, God is real and no matter how old the Bible is, it's still written for instruction and guidance for the world to follow, and if people fail to heed to the warning of God's written word, then that's a problem that will definitely be addressed with God, and he will DEAL with the children of disobedience. For those who don't want to follow the Bible and what it says about marriage or any other instruction, then that should be a problem that they should keep to themselves. This is a public forum where people ask for useful advice about a subject, not for anyone to come on talking about living in a secular world and all that...that's the problem with the world today and why so many things are being practiced, and so much trouble going on simply because of DISOBEDIENCE to God's word and he sends his wrath upon the children of DISOBEDIENCE. We may be living in a secular world, but one thing for sure, on judgement day, somebody will be answering for disobeying God's word.

 

[awesome liver]

Well I suppose that in regard to the issues of courtship and marriage these cultural differences are significant. Then again, I suppose they also expain the divorce rates and suicide rates pretty well.

do you really want to know that those in the BLUE state -- the secular states or Northerners as we're often referred to as, have a lower rate of divorce AND abortion than people in the red states (i.e. the places south of the mason-dixon line).

why do i bring that up? because for an entire region who proclaim to be godly people who follow the bible, the results of such studies are skewed toward the less godly.

 

[melandshanetria]

This isn't about a certain region, this is about the whole entire world. There are people not living for God everywhere that you go, in North America, South America, you name it...the ones that are not following God's word, no matter where they come from, will have to answer to God for being disobedient to his written instruction if they don't follow his written word. I do believe that Inchristalone221, was referring to the world as a whole in his statement.

 

[inchristalone221]

I do believe that Inchristalone221, was referring to the world as a whole in his statement.

You believe rightly. My point is this: The moral will of God, as laid out in the Bible, was designed firstly for the glory of God and secondly for our own hapiness. When we follow the plans God has for the things we do as laid out in His word, things are better.