Sub forums poll

[Adventist Dissident]

He now that the fighting is over with it's time to build this progressive forum into a power house. I would like to proose that we add to other sub forums here a Social Sub fourm and a Sabbatarian Subfourm for other sabbatarian groups. That way we can get more discussion going.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

this is to keep a running tally

 

[StormyOne]

why? maybe later but there is not a ton of activity at the moment so are sub-forums really needed at this moment?

 

[Adventist Dissident]

I would say yes, nobody here seemes to think of any one els but themselves. there are other who might like to have a place to socialize and talk

I suggest the sabbath keepers subforum, because we are open to ideas, other sabbath keepers would be great to interact and learn from and a social sub fourm would be great in making this a place to have fun, it would go a long way in making this the premer Adventist site on CF

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Ice, with all due respect, it would appreciate it if neither you NOR anyone else started up with strongarming and spearheading. Another member (not you) continually sought to set himself up as the de facto spearhead leader over on the trad subforum back last fall and it really bes grating. Moriah does not like the idea of one person grabbing invisible reins that may or may not exist and trying to establish themselves at the head all the time. This gets old and tiresome. It would like to see us all generating ideas together, WHEN the time comes that more than one of us FEELS the need for expanding for actual reasons and not JUST for expansion's sake.

Does that make sense? It does not mean to offend. Ambition and drive can be good things, but doing stuff just to do it because one wants to seize the reins and not because anything actually NEEDS doing yet, just doesn't work well. No offense but seeing you barrell ahead here and then pout that everyone presumably bes thinking "only of themselves" because they don't rally behind you, strikes Moriah as similar in scent to some of the worst of that other party it alluded to earlier.

... it's time to build this progressive forum into a power house.

See, turning it into a "powerhouse" just sounds to this one like we think we have something to "prove". Rather than trying to prove anything to anyone, Moriah would just like to chill with some cool intelligent spiritual-oriented minds and have good edifying discussions in a hopefully relatively "safe" environment (i.e. free of bully-pulpitting and attempts to molest or strongarm another's conscience). BEING something great to enjoy will be far better in the long run than trying to MAKE ourselves into something or "make a name for ourselves".

Let's make this subforum a place of cooperation where we move together. Suggesting ideas bes fine, but trying prematurely to mobilize this way ... ehhhh ... just doesn't sit well. Again, please don't be offended or hurt. You did ask for input.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Until the actual time to expand comes, how about starting with a Sabbatarian fellowship thread or social fellowship thread or something first, and see how it goes? As interest builds so will incentive to expand.

 

[Adventist Dissident]

MORIA,

sorry you feel i am strong arming, didn't mean to do that, just would like a place to fellowhip. I think the idea of a thread is just wimpy.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

That's cool Ice. Thanks for explaining. Sorry if it misread your aims here. Cool?

 

[Adventist Dissident]

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Another member (not you) continually sought to set himself up as the de facto spearhead leader over on the trad subforum back last fall and it really bes grating.

who was that

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

Don't wanna say -- don't wanna get reported for "flaming" him.

 

[JonMiller]

We don't have enough posts on a daily basis to necessitate having subforums.

JM

 

[Byfaithalone1]

I know my post will be quickly rebuffed; however, I'll make the suggestion anyway. How about a subforum in which trads, progressives, formers and never beens are welcome to have dialogue together?

OK, now you can let me have it.

BFA

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

BFA, that might be doable. Provided those who come agree to treat one another with respect and dignity. It would totally suck to see a repeat of some of the horrid catfights we have seen in the past.

Maybe we should all chill in our own separate spaces for a little while, though, until we bes feeling more practically forgiving toward one another and willing to be hospitable. Right now skins seem a bit thin on both sides, but in time they can thicken and heal. Perhaps if we each pray for one another this can happen more quickly.

 

[AndrewK788]

I know my post will be quickly rebuffed; however, I'll make the suggestion anyway. How about a subforum in which trads, progressives, formers and never beens are welcome to have dialogue together?

OK, now you can let me have it.

BFA

I wouldn't be against that. The only problem is that's basically what the old D&D forum was and now the forums are split.

Spite-reporting was the biggest problem I saw there. I don't know if this is possible, but it might work better if general reports by users were disabled in such a forum and it was directly monitored by a mod. It would at least eliminate the tempation to spite report those you disagree with, and it would save the mods time with useless reports so they could deal with the actual infractions.

 

[ricker]

I wouldn't be against that. The only problem is that's basically what the old D&D forum was and now the forums are split.

Spite-reporting was the biggest problem I saw there. I don't know if this is possible, but it might work better if general reports by users were disabled in such a forum and it was directly monitored by a mod. It would at least eliminate the tempation to spite report those you disagree with, and it would save the mods time with useless reports so they could deal with the actual infractions.

I don't like the new arrangement and probably won't be posting here much. I wanted to know what the SDA church still taught and what "mainstream" Adventists thought. (It's not that I don't like you folks!). Maybe I will get used to this, I don't know. I will just miss seeing what people like Jim L and Red thought about the points I brought up. I'm not above learning.
To many thin skinned people on the forums, I suppose.
God bless! Ricker

 

[Byfaithalone1]

BFA, that might be doable. Provided those who come agree to treat one another with respect and dignity. It would totally suck to see a repeat of some of the horrid catfights we have seen in the past.

Maybe we should all chill in our own separate spaces for a little while, though, until we bes feeling more practically forgiving toward one another and willing to be hospitable. Right now skins seem a bit thin on both sides, but in time they can thicken and heal. Perhaps if we each pray for one another this can happen more quickly.

If we are discussing a separate subforum--an entirely separate subforum from the forums already in existence today--couldn't folks decide for themselves whether they are interested in and/or ready to enter a forum in which all parties are welcome? Honesly, I haven't had that much trouble discussing the Scriptures with any of the represented SDA subgroups, but I have been banished from talking to certain groups simply because some folks have previously gone to battle. Somehow that just doesn't seem reasonable.

However, my voice is only one among many.

BFA

 

[Mankin]

I would only vote for the social. All members of CF allowed.

 

[Sophia7]

I know my post will be quickly rebuffed; however, I'll make the suggestion anyway. How about a subforum in which trads, progressives, formers and never beens are welcome to have dialogue together?

OK, now you can let me have it.

BFA

I'm in favor of a place where everyone is welcome to debate on SDA-related topics. Unfortunately, some people aren't, which is why we have the separate forums now and why the D&D sub-forum was closed to Progressives and formers and others who are not considered "friends of the church."

There's always General Theology or Denomination-specific Theology, but not a lot of Traditional Adventists go there.

 

[Sophia7]

I don't like the new arrangement and probably won't be posting here much. I wanted to know what the SDA church still taught and what "mainstream" Adventists thought. (It's not that I don't like you folks!). Maybe I will get used to this, I don't know. I will just miss seeing what people like Jim L and Red thought about the points I brought up. I'm not above learning.
To many thin skinned people on the forums, I suppose.
God bless! Ricker

I know what you mean.

 

[Moriah_Conquering_Wind]

If we are discussing a separate subforum--an entirely separate subforum from the forums already in existence today--couldn't folks decide for themselves whether they are interested in and/or ready to enter a forum in which all parties are welcome? Honesly, I haven't had that much trouble discussing the Scriptures with any of the represented SDA subgroups, but I have been banished from talking to certain groups simply because some folks have previously gone to battle. Somehow that just doesn't seem reasonable.

However, my voice is only one among many.

BFA

Hi BFA,
It bes Moriah's impression that we bes discussing having "child folders" here in THIS subforum, hence its answer. If you meant to bring up a separate Congregational subforum altogether then it apologizes for misreading and hence miscommunicating.

It would rather not get into a detailed discussion of who did what here. For starters, Moriah bes not part of most of that, only part of a small slice what took place last autumn when some persons mistakenly believed that others only supported or befriended it "opportunistically" because it had severe spiritual issues and afflictions stemming from having at one time adopted a position that shipwrecked its faith. A lot of hostility got directed toward Moriah back then simply for its particular affliction, and unfairly and unkindly so, and so it withdrew from the entire scene. So whatever ensued thereafter between the trads and progressives, Moriah bes not a part of and has no say about from either side. It only knows that despite not having been involved, certain parties have continued to be as hostile as possible toward it without any cause while other parties have always been welcoming, compassionate and kind -- and there ends its concerns as far as this whole scenario goes. Moriah gravitates toward those who treat it with kindness and away from those who lash out cruel or nasty at it for no reason or who want to nitpick and faultfind with every statement it makes even where no offense whatsoever bes intended or offered.

Anyway it understood Ice's poll here to be about organizing child-folders in this subforum, so if it misunderstood that then it apologizes to everyone for any confusion it has accidentally contributed toward.