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Stumbling block in forgivness

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Understood X,

For me , I am in a season of sanctification under love. Trying to open the mind to loose the taught fear of doctrine and preacher who taught fear God and loosing investments to mankinds teachings. Rom:14:22 & 23 are new to me in application to self in that "self" listened to others to the point of application in trust on Spiritual matters. Continuous condemnation "was" where this spirit lived. Investment in Prov:3-5 has not been refuted yet but is in the Old testament where this vessel learned first but proclaimed Jesus out of this mouth as the savior . All things are pure to pure intent is the model we all try to accomplish and sooo correct X. This Spirit is being built in "self first" through God to capture Joy and not condemnation , Gods Praises ,lol !!
 
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To be pure (in one form) is a returning to the place of innocence (no longer seeded by that which is without, a process of thought that leads to a wandering around where our soul becomes likened to a wilderness) which is itself a place where we are brought back into the captivity of. It is here where one remains and goes no more out.

If we do not eat, the process ends, but to say we will not drink is to have drank already.
 
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To be rich does not show God's pleasure no more than being poor shows God's displeasure.

To believe that it is, is to have eaten of the tree that slays by a knowledge that does not lead to life, but a life built upon the labor of thought to measure up to one who has no measure; it becomes a bottomless pit, a forever falling, but coming to no end.

Labor for nothing.
 
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Interesting view points in both posts and noted. If one comes to innocents then forgiveness is necessary for that is life, living in the Spirit and/or love . Juxtaposition of Spirit = Thought & bodily actions in choice as defined in this thread that stems from an inability inherent of the Spirit (It is from life) thus "no" forgiveness was ever in the equation of Lucifer from us and principalities under faith/love and trust to God. Spiritually speaking in knowledge of, "life", in part to our spirit. Thus one comes to the conclusion in posts that the concept in OP is agreed upon in sum but not the terminology in its inadequacy of scaring the babes through out, X. It pretty much destroys "most" Organized religions and traditions were in hate Lucifer in a "warfare mindset" is massaged to keep the sheep under entertaining root word hate but not limited too prescribed definition where thoughts in fear and other grey areas such as envy, vanity and pride lead to rebellion until one comes back to hate, misunderstanding and negativity= Non-Life.

Not to forgive Lucifer is an act of Non-Life/Love/God/Our Spirit from reading posts above and a prideful misconception to deny limitation in our/mankinds holding non life/hate , negativity, grey areas in envy, lies , vanities etc...As we were created in His image not His infinity/Omni-ness that we hold to one or the other .. Life, Love, God, Faith, Good, Trust, Investment of Self in all that. Or Hate/Tree of knowledge, Sin, this World, Unforgiveness.
 
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It is the rod that becomes a serpent, and when picked up by tail becomes a rod again, that draws a son out of Egypt as was the case for David, when he numbered the people and did not provide a sacrifice for every soul, but in the end sacrificed his own soul (image) that the measuring of the firstborn in him became to him.

God becomes our adversary the same way he becomes our salvation, but in truth ... God has never been our adversary.
 
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Though these words are very measured, I will try to begin to say it anyway … (in light of your OP, but not as if it is something new to you, or anyone else for that matter).

Accepted or not, the soul’s composition is eternal having come out of God, but a word in sense is a seed (Christ/ Lucifer/mountain/stream/etc.), which produces more of the same that was sown, not different, but an abundance of the same, as to what this word becomes to us (it multiplying in different forms, from different places of seeing and hearing that speak to the same one truth one is seeing from in the moment), which is how we relate to God as one who is our father and through this relationship of father and son, all things to us. But the word God is just that, a word to try and define that which has no form, and having always been, is, and all the words of God are just as the one word God (for how many words does it take to define this one Word) which is something we possess, a something that it was our father’s good pleasure to give), in us they become a conscious state we abide in, which is Truth and is not separate from self. To divide this inheritance, the soul is deceived by an image/serpent from without and becomes classified as a garden that is not enclosed, or one husband ... with that said …

The word Lucifer/Satan/Devil/Light Bearer/Waster/Leviathan/Serpent/Dragon/Covering Cherub (as a 1/3 of the city, i.e. reasoning) etc. are all the same truth as it relates to the process of a son called out of the perception of flesh as something they abide in, and that by God is both rejected and not accepted as a perception that falls short of the perception that is God’s. It is the perception of who we are in relationship to our Father, this being where we are, or where art thou (which is not about a geographical location). One picture of this (but not the first) is what the word’s thou shalt not eat became to Adam who (in picture of his soul) the woman by coming out of him had become a garden not enclosed.

Knowledge is the Cherub that covers in relation to the reasoning of our soul, it not being the tree but the process of the mind (as a third part) cast down when seeded by anything less than one. In the mind of Christ there is no sin, and it is as something we possess, but it is a mind only seeded by one, where God is not our adversary, he not sharing his glory with another.

We must agree with our adversary while we are in the way speaks to our soul and this same process of time, likened to the process of the seed found in a field, as in Cain, and Abel, or where Joseph was found wandering around in before he was thrown into a pit (among other things), where also the prison is, or in another form, bottomless pit) where the judge (or our perception of God) throws us in, until we have paid to the uttermost, or last thought, a pouring out, or cup that we drink of (which is by design, being the same process of the soul, whether it is to a scattering or a gathering again into one, or God, whom we are in, and whom is the all in all).

Jesus agreed with his adversary (whom Judas as one chosen was to him, a picture of this devil/accuser/which makes turns truth into something to gain, as opposed to given (a pattern found in the whole of scripture), a place where God drove him to by the words, Thou art my beloved son in whom I am well pleased, which became an adversary to him, which the truth transpiring in his mind, gave itself to the picture of where the spirit had driven him to, saying it was immediately (in thought), the devil comes to steal the seed sown.

Everyone ever given a word from God goes through the same process; Jesus did it without eating, and entered into his inheritance symbolized in one form as all of the trees of the garden. If we do not eat, the process ends, in form, it is agreeing with your adversary, which for Adam was God who planted a tree that the eating of becomes death to him (but this was never anything outside of the purpose of God (God seeing everything he created and called it not just good, but very good).
 
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Praises to God to share in spiritual concepts as toddlers lol,

Measured indeed, yet seen in concept (mysteries in principalities, as another lacking term to describe the indescribable, lol), nicely thought out, and note worthy in deepness. This mind is more blunt , simplified &/or ignorant in the arena of knowledge, patients and word format. Yet, not stuck in that state as one seeks through to an ever changing fluidity of the natural man to Spiritual conceptual thinking. Provided by the Holy Spirit/Comforter in a new understanding in a moment of time, that freezes the mind in a tumult of True perception that leaves the vessel in awe, then praise . Composing a letter such as the one above, is in the wherewithal of the mind, His Spirit uses as the vessel, in measured words. Thinking in the Spirit can at times be profound in the trickle down to the mind/self/individuality. Which is illusion, the Lie, we eat in this plain of existence and most do not understand that we are all one through God in Spirit, even the individual named Lucifer, legend, demon, evil, principalities, adversary is of the source in lacking terminology of God. Alpha - Omega, Almighty creator, The, I AM .

We understand adversary as you eloquently put it. It has been named and a sense of control (in illusion/pride of individuality that the Spirit is our own and in claiming it, we know of nakedness. The tree of knowledge of good and evil created dual consciousness that spurns "choices" in our illusion of individuality in above terminology of good & evil.

There is profoundness in above missive through God using X as the vessel for one that seeks through to a truth and give praises to God when that measure is provided. Now comes faith that all eaten in the illusion of individuality is brought back to the source/God through the wage, death. There in comes judgment of Law/Muslim or Faith/Jesus/Christendom in what the illusion claimed under perceived individualism as the base of pursuit in another choice of Law vs Faith. Now understand beloved that no one is righteous under "adversary" (like that term X and usen it, "a lot", lol) and or compared to God. Thus we come in innocents/happiness/Joy/no fear, love on earth as it is in heaven. For this mind, practice in this plain of existence of sincere Joy in the heart/mind/body for the opportunity to bear hug others in innocents of love, then later, Jesus for walking where this adversary could not in the impossibility of the pursuit of righteousness like the Source Spirit/God/Jesus.<-- They do it for loves sake , who am I to not practice love in all things even the pain endured (is it not written God is love and love endureth all things ?) by self as blessings in the wages. With that Gomer Pile smile, for in the mind this one is conversing in "what would bring another "life for the Spirit" ? For this mind , a greedy submersion of His love for, "years", to pound out the conformity of the world to transform the mind Rom:12-2 for, He loved me first <--sanctification in the NT only until this mind became firm in His un-quenching love for the undeserved .Through repetition in the mind and body this psych/id came to believe this as new foundation , not fear, as this child was taught by people this child trusted. Years of greediness in relearning love as concept, then perception, then reciprocation (where this babe is at in the walk in real time) then application where what is learned after prayed on and tested for intent of the Spirit inside of this vessel is given to another that asks , 'Why you so happy all the time"? 1-Peter 3:15. Hope/Faith/Love most important of these is love. God will bring the sheep if He see's purity of intent.

Now is flipping of Matt22: 37-40 for "this" mind/thyself to the proper order of things in reciprocation in rebuilding this id/thyself/mind first in love as stated by Rom 12 2. All that is reiteration for this mind , yet, mayhap another can see the sense for their particular situations to understand no self love is in fear God.
 
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Stumblingblock is an interesting word in the language of God, as we observe as an opening of a book in us that God's word/words/knowledge are not separate from self.

We are surly in the infancy of this pure language that to each of us is as a stream of one river that flows up from our belly.

Son 7:2 Thy navel is like a round goblet, which wanteth not liquor: thy belly is like an heap of wheat set about with lilies.

Isa 46:3 Hearken unto me, O house of Jacob, and all the remnant of the house of Israel, which are borne by me from the belly, which are carried from the womb:

Jer 1:5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee ...
 
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It is starting to click X in His time, and understanding, in what this vessel can handle. One came to this thread in a toddlers way to seek through anothers "positive affirmation" of the thing only God can place in the mind (Pure language). Mind says stumbling block in a Spiritual concept, but it was in knowledge (a lot taught and a lot false, and mostly believed ) by people invested in by this vessels false perceptions. Thus this vessel propagated a lie in stating stumbling block out of ignorance and disobedience to the answer God had already given over a month ago for "others affirmations" as this vessel was taught to do in throwing a God given truth away to follow a man/womans opinion. As one can see this vessel reiterated a truth in different avenues of knowledge from August 2 until now to see for himself that in "source speak" all come from one and we aint the one. Read another thread that stated we decided to become Gods too in the parable of the tree so God took the tree of life. Will go and repost that later . For those that follow please understand this is a fluid thread wherein one is learning in bigger and bigger leaps in the awesomeness of Gods truth, yet, still a babe .Praise Him always !!!
 
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What is life when destined/ordained to fail in adversary? Faith ? Hope? Love? For the wages of sin is death ... Then is forgiveness a naught in current limitation of the body and mind stuck in adversary format? Should not one look upon death as the gateway to gain in the Spirit but not pursued in the mind and body? Or, because taking of life holds the mind in insanities realm of the conformed , yet, thinking upon this subject in an abstract way like a... rubix cube puzzle, in how to die in righteousness may be of sin too lol.
 
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A quote i LOVE from Corrie Ten Boom:

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... yet, thinking upon this subject in an abstract way like a... rubix cube puzzle, in how to die in righteousness may be of sin too lol.

It is still the labor by thought to be.

Adam ate of his own reasoning but not concerning himself, which the things in relationship to this are found in the deep sleep.
 
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wait wait I got it X and it is a reiteration of its sin to think in self/primary format

In the language of God, sin becomes thoughts which associate themselves with Leaves of a tree, or a tree, children (stars/sand/wheat/tares/seeds, etc. which is both found on the individual and the collective level one not in fullness being complete without the other).

The application of adding sin unto sin is found in the first garden when they saw they were naked and then made an apron (a girding as in warfare of the mind wherein we oppose God and by this oppose ourselves) to cover themselves which leads to the picture found in the tree Jesus cursed for having no fruit (though the time of figs had not come yet (being that in God/Christ/Son/Relationship/Fellowship Truth/Self is always present a he had said to Martha when she said one day her brother would be raised/himself being this present truth (just as when he was talking to Nicodemus about being in heaven). It being the kingdom of God (our soul/mind of God/mind of Christ) that suffers violence, and the violent take it by force, which was only up until John (the serpent that prophecy had become being beheaded or coming to an end by being fulfilled in Jesus (Jesus showing the truth of what was given, and appointed as something that was God's good pleasure to do, therefore as something always present to him from before the beginning), though there is a Yet is of this truth found in one place as the three-fold name of the man/image/seed/perception of sin that we overcome.
 
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