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Stuggles against lust

Im 15 years old and male. My private spiritual life has always been easier than living out my social private life, until this past week. My closest friends have been abandoning me and my advanced classes' homework consume my free time, I havnt felt this low in a long time. Now the sin of lust, which ive been great at risisting for the past year-and-a-half, has suddenly been appealing as a means of making me happy when I feel miserable. I've become obsessed with the sin, something I would have never fathomed a week ago. But I know its wrong, and this knowledge that it is wrong is making my life even harder. I desperatly need something to stop these feelings of lust before they tempt me, ideally a means of happiness, but I don't feel a happiness quite like this through anything else. What makes the situation even worse is that when the feelings of lust pass, I feel so guilt ontop of the misery I'm currently dealing with. I want to get back to my previous lifestyle, but I can't seem to be able to. I need advice on how to stop these temptations. Please contribute any thoughts, what would really be nice is a way to lust but not really lust according to the Bible, I guess that previous statement shows how low my spirituality has sunk to, in such a short time :( It seems if you allow youself to sin in one way, the whole "slippery slope" sequence comes into play, and you find yourself commiting sins you never thought you would... Anyways, please give me some advice, or at least your thoughts, it would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Put away things that tempt you.

If it's magazines, toss 'em.
If it's the Internet, have someone put a program on there to block it and not give you the password.
Whatever it is guard your mind against it. Think on good things only.

Again, it's a constant battle. Especially as a male and especially at your age. Stand firm. God and you will win!
 
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I too am 15 yr old, and I struggle big time with this at times, its not even that I look to it for happiness, or things like magazines, etc, its just my own thoughts and when I am in the presence of girls. Its just that I so easily my thoughts trail into lustful thoughts. It's certainly a tough thing, one that like all things, we cannot defeat on our own. "For without me [Jesus] we can do nothing"(Jn 15:5), BUT "I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me" (Phil 4:13). That is something that we can never lose sight of. Don't forget tho, there is no excuse for sin. "If we are in Christ, we are a new creation, old things have passed away."(2 Cor 5:17) and "If you love me, you will keep my commandments." (JN 14:18 I believe). Take comfort tho in "he who has begun a good work in you will complete it until the coming of the Lord Jesus Christ" (Phil 1:6) and "If we confess our sins he is faithful...to cleanse us from all unrighteousness" I'll be praying for you brother. Take care!!!
 
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Be accountable to some other, wise mature believer. If you gotta answer to him every week, you will be amazed at how much you can control yourself if you have to answer for your thoughts. As long as it's hidden you think your getting away with it. By the way it never gets easy to resist. The best way is to be so saturated with Christ that you don't even have time to be soaking up Satan. As you already know Satans a liar.He tells you it's happiness but after you do it your miserable. How obvious is that. Cleanse your heart now while your young, or it will plague your marriage later, because no wife can live up to your fantasies, or if she did she wouldn't be the kind of women you would trust, she would probably be fulfilling other mens fantasies as well. There is NO happiness down that road
 
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i beleive that the majority of people fail to understand the chemistry or the framework of lust, so they cannot truely cure it.

one thing you must first understand is that lust and all other sin, is not something you do, but something you are.

you do not get it out of your life, you must change yourself.
jesus said that the sins that come out of a man, come out of his heart. james said then when we sin, were drawn away by our own lusts.
i dont think we will ever overcome lust as long as we continue to think that is something we must simply avoid doing, or when it comes, we think it is the devil, and that it isnt us.
but it is us.

and we must go through a process of change, we must be made holy righteous, and then holiness and righteousness will come forth out of the actions of your body.
there is a great diffrence between
the devil offering you something, and you saying, no, i dont want that and you turning and walking away.

and people who are bound to pornography, touching yourself, and all sorts of sexual fullfillment that are not godly. these people whom make it a lifestyle, even though they strive to end it.

the first is the devil, the second is the corruption and inner infestation of the man.

when people go through much pain and agony and travail to end the working of lust, and still fail 99% of the time, as is abundantly common in this day and age. it is becuase they are not struggling with and outside force, but they are attempting to change who they really are, and it simply is not possible, becuase that is who they are, they are striving to not do, the only thing they can do.

ive known lust as well as anyone i beleive, and from the years of experience ive had with it, i beleive i have come upon some principles that are key to ending it.

key #1
that you must ask god to come and make you holy, before you can act out holiness in your body.

this is something i have rarely heard of people doing. yet, i beleive it is too important to ever neglect.
we are born sinners, and that is our very nature, that is how we live, that is our chemistry, thats what we do.
paul in rom ch 7 told us about a "law of sin" that was in his members, or body parts. that when he heard the law, that he should do right, the law of sin would not allow him to obey it. it would literally overpower him and make him do what he did not agree to do and what he hated.
i beleive that is why people fall to lust and all other sins much of the time, i dont think it is a lack of strategic thinking, but them simply not being able overcome sin in themselves.

then paul says in very beggining of chapter 8, that now he has been set free from the "law of sin" that was in his body, by the power of the "law of the holyspirit of life".

we must simply pray to god, asking for him to send the holyspirit to us that he would come into our lives and change us from evil, to good.

people may avoid some sins on their own, but i beleive that bondadges, things that seem to tear us, hurt us, take us through great agony when we attempt to end them, cannot simply be avoided.
becuase it constantly flows out of the inside of us. and we cannot get away from ourselves.
like a man, striving to go without food. from inside him comes a great hunger and pain, and he is cast into great travail, because he is struggling with the very essence or nature of his own being.
becuase he was made to eat, and he is struggling with himself.

when lust is a major part of our lives, it is not an outside force, but an outworking of what we are inside. and it hurts to try to stop, becuase we are revolting against the very nature of own bodies.

you must ask god to come to you, and move upon your body like he moved upon the waste land of the earth in gen 1.2. and change you, and make you into something diffrent. you have to ask him to change you. you cannot change yourself.

think,
how often do we do surgery on ourselves? we cant.
we must always have another do it for us.

key#2
and it must renew this godly process daily.
it is never a one time fix, but it is a process that takes time.
and you must not fail to put it into effect every day of your life.
it flows from relationship with god, god being a person, our relationship with him comes from fellowship, it must be continued forever.
becuase the "flesh" never leaves us, but the holyspirit can come upon your body and press the flesh down till it no longer effects you, but this must be maintained.


all in all,
the key to overcoming lust or any sort of bondadge in our lives to lay before the lord and cry out for him to come and change us.
he must literally change your desires, and remove sinful stimulants from your body and being.
the holyspirit comes and moves upon your body when you go to him and meet him in your prayer place, and causes divine change. like he moved upon the earth, it was waste, dead, pointless, doomed, nothing good could come from it, but the holyspirit moved on it, and changed it into something holy and righteous.
you have to daily find a place where you can pray and spend time with him, and as you spend time with him, he will do this for you.
and you must not ever cease to continue doing it.

i am overcoming my old lusts by leaps and bounds now becuase every morning i get alone with god and ask him to move upon me and make me holy and he does. he doesnt control my actions later, but the struggle is gone, and all i have to do is yeild to his power in my life, it comes down to decision now, and no longer is it a struggle. the holyspirits power is what does the struggling for me now. its so much easier.


make it a daily thing that you get in the presence of god in prayer and ask him to change you. to fill you with his spirit, so hes the only thing that ever comes out of you. and he will literally change you from one thing to another. it all rests upon your time and experience with god in your prayer place.

and continue this daily.
sorry, i was begginng to ramble. but i do this when i talk about the love of my life.
 
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i find when i do give in to lust it is hard the next time, but GOD is faithful and see's that you have posted here for one and by doing that shows signs that you are not happy with it. hook into prayer my friend

 

god bless
 
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Your battle may last a life-time but you must never stop fighting. There are two ways to empty a glass (mind) full of air (lust), One way is to attach the glass to a vacuum pump and suck the air out. This is difficult and it will be prone to leaks. An easier method of removing the air is to fill the glass with water.

In attempting to rid your mind of lust, you must find something to fill in the void. Fill your mind with good things, healthy reading (Bible) and other good works. Fill your time with activities that are helpful to others. And never stop praying.

St. Paul mentioned a thorn in his flesh that he carried around with him. Some feel that the thorn he carried was the temptation to lust. But remember that in our weakness, Christ can be strong. Keep praying for deliverance. Never never stop praying. Even when you fail, keep confessing your sin and asking God to help you again. What matters is not how often you fall, but how often that you turn back to God in sorrow and repentance.

In Christ, Patrick
 
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"why continue trying to fix the old, when you can get a new one?"

you cant repair yourself or the fallen man that you may be, or fallen attributes you may have, even after being saved.
you must lay before the lord and in his presence he will change you himself, he will CREATE in you a clean heart. he will remove that lustful heart, and replace it with a clean one.

"just a little note, that i beleive should be addressed"
pauls thorn in the flesh was not a sin or a struggle with sin.
but it was a "messenger of darkness" it was a spirit.
it was simply a spirit that followed him around and caused him to be stoned all the time and greatly troubled with persecutions.
men and women have used pauls thorn in the flesh to teach that some sins will never leave us, but they are very incorrect.
paul said that he had been set free from the law of sin, and counted it a horrible rediculous thing to remain in sin when your supposed to be dead to sin as a christian.
 
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Please don't listen to the above post. Broken machine is over 100% wrong(in the christian perpestive).
I can tell by what you are saying that you are in distress. I have been there myself. I am in a course to help me free myself from porn, lusting, and sexual immorality. Try this site: www.settingcaptivesfree.com The site has courses to take over the internet. I am in one now to help me from porn and masturbation. I can proudly say that I am in day 25 now and I feel great, and I don't need any of that stuff(porn, lusting) anymore. I feel better than I have in a long time.
Don't get me wrong, the temptation is still there on a daily basis, but as long as I desire God and trust in Him for everything, He will provide. I have asked Him for a new heart, a heart that longs for Him and not for things of the flesh. He is a very faithful God and I love Him for that. :bow:
Try the course out, there are courses for lots of things.
Your bro in Christ. . . . .
 
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Broken machine. I want to apologize about what I said now that you have edited what you posted. You always have a way out. The way out is Jesus. Try it, it's worth a shot.
Jesus loves you, and I think you know that, that is why you have 38 posts. Your sticking around for a reason. I wish the best for you.
 
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Originally posted by broken mach1ne
"He sewed his eyes shut because he is afraid to see
He tries to tell me what I put inside of me
He's got the answers to ease my curiosity
He dreamed a God up and called it Christianity

God is dead and no one cares
If there is a hell I'll see you there

He flexed his muscles to keep his flock of sheep in line
He made a virus that would kill off all the swine
His perfect kingdom of killing, suffering, and pain
Demands devotion atrocities done in his name"
                          -Heresy, Nine Inch Nails

:eek: sounds like some one needs a hug
 
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sounds like someone wants attention.
if he were truely satisfied with himself and content, and didnt need attention, why do we keep hearing about it?

whatever your problem is broken machine, it is nots gods fault.
christianity is the largest beleif in the world, it seems to work for everyone else who takes it honestly and gives it a chance.
whereever you end up, its because you chose that place.
dont blame god or anyone else.
you are the sum of your actions up to this point, dont blame anyone except yourself for what you have become.
and dont blame god for not saving you, anyone whos tried god will not agree with you that he doesnt answer every prayer from the heart.

im dont want you to go down that road, but i dont pity you, becuase your perfectly capable of turning around any time you like.

"if theres a hell ill see you there"
it takes an extremely degenerated, blind man with no understanding to make a statement like that.
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                                                            forever.

see the dot in front of the line?
that length of that little dot is an accurate accesment of the length of your life, compared to the eternity. the length of the 3 lines represent eternity.
think, your little 100 years you have to live on this earth, is nothing to be compared to eternity. a time with simply no end.
and what you do in that dot, determines the state you will be in for the rest of eternity. and once your done with this life of only 70-100 years, you have all eternity to reap the reward of your actions, and then there is no second chance. 
your mind could never fathom eternity, or what eternity in hell would be like.
you would be a fool, i am sorry, but you would be a fool to go into eternity unprepared.
you better redeem the time you have, make the most of it, the the worst thing in hell is not the pain.
the worst thing in hell is knowing that the price had been paid for your salvation, and all you had to do take was take it. but now its too late.
and youll have eternity to regret.
who really cares whether or not you always understand god, you better get over that if you dont want to spend eternity in hell.
 
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In response to your question originally asked I have cut and pasted some words from James Dobson a very respected Christian preacher/family counselor and child psychologist

"I don't believe a loving God would put a raging fire in an immature kid and then da*n him for doing what he can't help doing"

-Dr. James Dobson "Focus on the Family"


<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">"It is my opinion that masturbation is not much of an issue with God. It is a normal part of adolescence that involves no one else. It does not cause disease. It does not produce babies, and Jesus did not mention it in the Bible. I'm not telling you to touch, and I hope you won't feel the need for it. But if you do, it is my opinion that you should not struggle with guilt over it. Why do I tell you this? Because I deal with so many Christian young people [and men!] who are torn apart with guilt over masturbation; they want to stop and just can't. I would like to help you avoid that agony".</SPAN>



<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: 'Comic Sans MS'">Dr. James Dobson writes that boys from Christian / Church backgrounds often have additional problems with masturbation</SPAN>. They are taught that there is an after-life, and because they will be held accountable for their life here on earth, many become plagued with unrelenting guilt over masturbation. He goes on to say that many boys (including Christians) find masturbation absolutely uncontrollable. The boy feels he has sinned and asks God to forgive him and promises not to do it again. Sooner or later though, the accumulating hormonal pressure becomes all encompassing and he will find he is unable to keep his promise to God. What does a boy say to God on the 300th time he has failed to live up to his promise to stop? This boy is in incredible pain. He feels bad about himself and "those" thoughts and guilt that won't stop---even when he is at church! The pain becomes so great that we lose the young man to the church---and to God---because he simply has to escape from the inner turmoil. Dr Dobson summarises with the statement: "Masturbation is all encompassing!"

"Boys and parents need to understand that masturbation (in Dr. Dobson's words) "is an inevitable developmental stage---it is going to happen!" He concludes with the statement that: "If it happens to you, I wouldn't worry too much about it because I don't think it has much to do with your relationship to God"

Thats all Mr.Dobson had to say, in other words, 98% of christian boys claim to have masterbated by the age of 13 and 2% have been known to lie.&nbsp;That is an actually Focus on the family stat. &nbsp;It's just part of life, something that will always be with you as long as you are a sexual being, but especially when you are young, some people do more or less our grow it, but it is a universal experience for boys.&nbsp; Women tend to not get this sometimes but for a guy the idea of never thinking of girls is about as realistic a teaching as cutting off your right hand if it causes you to sin.&nbsp;
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