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Study: understanding ToE = acceptance

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Larniavc

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SAAB no longer makes cars. It still makes planes. It never stopped making them. The full name of the SAAB that makes planes is Saab Defence and Security. As the name implies it makes more than planes.



These cars were produced under license by a Chinese company, a license given before SAAB automobile company went into liquidation. Actually, NEVS has lost the licence to use the SAAB badge but is soon going to start production of an all-electric car on the same platform, and will look remarkably like the older SAAB 9-3. I believe it will be marketed as the NEVS 9-3.

This is all rather off-topic and is given to clarify earlier posts. Moderators, feel free to remove it if you wish.
Um, I was being sarcastic with my remark.
 
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Lol.

You claimed “evolutionists” didn’t know the difference between macro and micro evolution, I was asking for evidence of this bizarre claim, it’s not that difficult a conversation to keep up with.

I admit if I called creationists out on all the garbage they post I’d be here all day but hey ho, in for a penny.
actually, go back and read what I said again, this time for comprehension...you will be surprised to find out that what I said was that evolutionists apparently don't know the difference between what IS COMMONLY REFERRED to as macro and micro evolution. IOW's the word escape the understanding of those that seek to justify their judgments rather than understand another pov
 
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There is no qualitative difference. Maybe that's what confused you about our responses.
really? You honestly believe there is no qualitative difference between evolution the process and evolution the theory? Interesting, you need to learn something about the theory of evolution before responding to me.
 
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actually, go back and read what I said again, this time for comprehension...you will be surprised to find out that what I said was that evolutionists apparently don't know the difference between what IS COMMONLY REFERRED to as macro and micro evolution. IOW's the word escape the understanding of those that seek to justify their judgments rather than understand another pov
"Evolutionists" generally don't see any difference between them except one of degree. As a practical matter, the term "microevolution" as used by bioligists is commonly refers to evolutionary change up to and including speciation, with "macroevolution" being further changes after that. The important thing to note is that there is no implication that macro and micro-evolution proceed by qualitatively different processes.
 
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You mean like a crocoduck?

This is exactly why I don’t believe creationists who try to tell me they understand ToE.
Huh? Your posts are totally unable to be comprehended, please learn to communicate before responding to me again.
 
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Don’t you mean a desperate attempt by creos to say that evolution does not happen?

After all, none have yet been able to show a barrier to prevent many small changes having a cumulative effect.
No...I mean the ability to rationally discuss a topic through communication skills that include but are not limited to learning the meaning of words one is not familiar with.
 
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"Evolutionists" generally don't see any difference between them except one of degree. As a practical matter, the term "microevolution" as used by bioligists is commonly refers to evolutionary change up to and including speciation, with "macroevolution" being further changes after that. The important thing to note is that there is no implication that macro and micro-evolution proceed by qualitatively different processes.
what? I can't understand your posts, you don't know how to communicate....please learn to communicate before responding to me again.

Now, when you decide to drop the games I will too.
 
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Larniavc

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really? You honestly believe there is no qualitative difference between evolution the process and evolution the theory? Interesting, you need to learn something about the theory of evolution before responding to me.
So you conflate macro and micro evolution with ToE and allele change in populations over time?

You should know that is not the case.

Keep going, this is great!
 
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So you conflate macro and micro evolution with ToE and allele change in populations over time?

You should know that is not the case.

Keep going, this is great!
lol not even close to what I said...when will you learn to communicate? Part of communication is learning to read for comprehension. IT's time you started doing so.
 
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lol not even close to what I said...when will you learn to communicate? Part of communication is learning to read for comprehension. IT's time you started doing so.
You were talking about micro and macro evolution and then ToE and the fact that things evolve.

That’s exactly what you said.

You’re so cute!
 
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You were talking about micro and macro evolution and then ToE and the fact that things evolve.

That’s exactly what you said.

You’re so cute!
look closely at the quote you are referring to..."really? You honestly believe there is no qualitative difference between evolution the process and evolution the theory? Interesting, you need to learn something about the theory of evolution before responding to me."

Notice the question marks, those are there for a reason. The reason is because I am asking a question not making a statement. I mean this is comprehension of the lowest level. Then I state that you need to learn something about the ToE because you don't seem to know anything if you can't comprehend that a question mark means a question is being asked.
 
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See, I was told that if I punctuated better I would improve my communication skills and wouldn't have the problem I talked about in my first post. I took that advice and you are still judging without taking time to listen to what I am saying first...funny how that works isn't it?
 
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what I said was that evolutionists apparently don't know the difference between what IS COMMONLY REFERRED to as macro and micro evolution.

Yes, I know you asserted that. I’m saying that I don’t believe that to be the case.

So can you demonstrate that this is true or not? Which “evolutionists” struggle with these definitions?
 
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Huh? Your posts are totally unable to be comprehended, please learn to communicate before responding to me again.
You ostensibly know less of creationism than ToE.

Now wonder you come across so confused by the facts.
 
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look closely at the quote you are referring to..."really? You honestly believe there is no qualitative difference between evolution the process and evolution the theory? Interesting, you need to learn something about the theory of evolution before responding to me."

Notice the question marks, those are there for a reason. The reason is because I am asking a question not making a statement. I mean this is comprehension of the lowest level. Then I state that you need to learn something about the ToE because you don't seem to know anything if you can't comprehend that a question mark means a question is being asked.
The process of evolution and the theory of evolution are not synonyms of micro and macro evolution. That was what I referring to.

That’s basic stuff. But do continue.
 
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Yes, I know you asserted that. I’m saying that I don’t believe that to be the case.

So can you demonstrate that this is true or not? Which “evolutionists” struggle with these definitions?
lol...you already proved my point why should I evidence another point, a different point just because you don't want to accept the fact that many of you all judge without taking time to listen?
 
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You ostensibly know less of creationism than ToE.

Now wonder you come across so confused by the facts.
lol...I have said nothing at all about what I know or don't know about evolution. But then again, that was my point. Here is another post that evidences my point. You all judge without listening to what is known or not known.
 
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The process of evolution and the theory of evolution are not synonyms of micro and macro evolution. That was what I referring to.

That’s basic stuff. But do continue.
I didn't say they were synonyms, that is what you are saying here. Please do keep up with what is really being said...you all are truly funny that you are so bad at listening that every post you all make evidences my point....
 
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In Jr. High school, I had a math teacher that taught me to never bet on anything but a sure thing. As to the point of this discussion and my role in it, I guarantee you cannot win. IOW's my point is a sure thing that I can freely bet on. You might as well drop the game now before it gets any worse for you all
 
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