Study: understanding ToE = acceptance

[DogmaHunter]

lol and just as many creationists saying...that isn't what I said...you aren't listening...you don't understand what I am saying...etc.

Not in the discussions I am refering to.

which was the point I was making....funny how that works.

We weren't discussing evolution.

 

[DogmaHunter]

lol and just as many creationists saying...that isn't what I said...you aren't listening...you don't understand what I am saying...etc.

It doesn't matter what creationists say when they are arguing against a theory that they are completely misrepresenting.

Their objections are void, if they start with invalid permises.
@Ancient of Days doesn't need to take my word for it (or yours, for that matter). He can go read the threads on evolution and see for himselft how those discussions always go.

which was the point I was making....funny how that works.

We weren't discussing evolution.

 

[Speedwell]

Even then I can think of a multitude of creation scientists who do have 100% knowledge of the TOE and still think its flawed and untrue.

there are not a multitude of creation scientists. Most of the few there are work for creationist ministries like ICR, CMI, AiG, etc. These creationist ministries are the source of most of the misinformation about the ToE that rank-and-file creationist suffer from.

So it looks to me like it is your post that is flawed and untrue.

 

[razzelflabben]

Not in the discussions I am refering to.



We weren't discussing evolution.

no, I was discussing why the numbers talked about in the OP could be off.

 

[DogmaHunter]

no, I was discussing why the numbers talked about in the OP could be off.

You succesfully repeated what I just said: we weren't discussing evolution.

 

[razzelflabben]

You succesfully repeated what I just said: we weren't discussing evolution.

lol your posts are very humorous...thanks for the laugh today.

 

[DogmaHunter]

lol your posts are very humorous...thanks for the laugh today.

Yea well...
There comes a point where one can only respond with humor.

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

 

[razzelflabben]

Yea well...
There comes a point where one can only respond with humor.

But hey, whatever floats your boat.

don't get so upset, humor isn't a bad thing...I would expect more from you in a discussion like this but it's all good.

 

[HitchSlap]

not necessary the point applies to the OP question it just isn't what you want to talk about.

You're tilting at windmills, senor Quixote.

 

[razzelflabben]

You're tilting at windmills, senor Quixote.

lol more funny...

 

[Speedwell]

I seen a timeline from a Rabbinical source, the timeline is even shorter then the one form the King James.

Only by a few years.

Muslims believe in some version of creationism but it's not something you could mistake for formal arguments.

Actually it's the same version as our own YECs believe in, coming from the same biblical book. As for the lack of formal arguments, don't count on it. The Muslims were the ones who transmitted the Greek philosophy of Plato and Aristotle to the West, and went through their own period of medieval scholasticism on account of it. Why do you think the "Kalam" argument for the existence of God has an Arabic name?

 

[Monna]

lol and yet many many many more people tell me that my communication skills especially written are exceptional even to the point of gifted...who should I listen to? You, or the dozens of other people who have no issue because they come with listening ears intent on hearing what I have to say rather than an attitude of only listening enough to respond.

I am the humblest person on earth, and proud of it!

 

[razzelflabben]

I am the humblest person on earth, and proud of it!

the OPer should have stated in the OP this thread was for comedic purposes...would have made it more interesting from the start.

 

[HitchSlap]

the OPer should have stated in the OP this thread was for comedic purposes...would have made it more interesting from the start.

Well, not until you chimed in... then lol's ensued.

You've been shouting into the wind that no one's listening to you, and haven't once considered that maybe we do hear what you're saying, but we don't consider you've made a salient point. Your insistence that we keep missing the forest for the trees is becoming laughable.

Let it go.

 

[razzelflabben]

Well, not until you chimed in... then lol's ensued.

You've been shouting into the wind that no one's listening to you, and haven't once considered that maybe we do hear what you're saying, but we don't consider you've made a salient point. Your insistence that we keep missing the forest for the trees is becoming laughable.

Let it go.

lol and yet you all proved my point at an alarming rate in this very thread and continue to do so which is actually the funniest part of the whole thing.

 

[razzelflabben]

Look, you all can try to keep goading me into a flaming war if you want but you showed your true colors when you started posting evidence that you don't listen before you speak which was my point from the beginning. It's all a matter of record and so your attempts to insult me are like water off a ducks back given the evidence you yourselves provided in this thread. So, here is my challenge to you all...keep trying to goad and insult me and see how far it goes before you decide it wasn't your smartest move.

 

[HitchSlap]

Look, you all can try to keep goading me into a flaming war if you want but you showed your true colors when you started posting evidence that you don't listen before you speak which was my point from the beginning. It's all a matter of record and so your attempts to insult me are like water off a ducks back given the evidence you yourselves provided in this thread. So, here is my challenge to you all...keep trying to goad and insult me and see how far it goes before you decide it wasn't your smartest move.

Fine. Move on. Start your own thread.

 

[razzelflabben]

Fine. Move on. Start your own thread.

where are your listening skills? I just told you I didn't need to because my point applies to the OP question...just because it wasn't the answer you wanted doesn't make it wrong.

 

[Ophiolite]

lol and yet many many many more people tell me that my communication skills especially written are exceptional even to the point of gifted...who should I listen to? You, or the dozens of other people who have no issue because they come with listening ears intent on hearing what I have to say rather than an attitude of only listening enough to respond.

If even a single person fails to understand what I have written, I take responsibility for that. I have observed that this is what excellent communicators do and I try diligently to follow their example. It's disappointing that you lack the confidence to accept that you are less than perfect, but even more puzzling to wonder why you would bother posting if you knew much of what you said was not being understood. Recall that their are at least a couple of members who have had problems with your meaning in this thread.

Finally, thank you for your response, for two reasons: firstly, it was the most cogent post you have made in this thread, secondly, it reminded me I had not yet pressed the Ignore button.

 

[razzelflabben]

If even a single person fails to understand what I have written, I take responsibility for that. I have observed that this is what excellent communicators do and I try diligently to follow their example. It's disappointing that you lack the confidence to accept that you are less than perfect, but even more puzzling to wonder why you would bother posting if you knew much of what you said was not being understood. Recall that their are at least a couple of members who have had problems with your meaning in this thread.

lol and yet I took responsibility and repeated using different wording several times over even to the point of pointing out where the reader was missing what was being said...kind of like the story I told you in PM about even allowing professional teachers for elementary students explain it for me and I was still told that I couldn't communicate when it wasn't even my words but the words of professionals teaching (what was being discussed) to elementary age students...how does that equal me being the problem, or do you just think the subject matter of reading for comprehension or twisting what others have to say into something they didn't say is just too hard of a subject matter for people on these boards?

Finally, thank you for your response, for two reasons: firstly, it was the most cogent post you have made in this thread, secondly, it reminded me I had not yet pressed the Ignore button.

lol funny...I do what you claim I didn't do and for that you feel justified to put me on ignore...sound to me that my words hit a little tooo close to home for you to deal with.