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[Citizen of the Kingdom]

It seems the White raiment and crowns represents the NT believers. The greek word for crown seems to confirm this as it is the same. Rev 6:11 they are given a white robe and told to wait a little longer

Not according to the research I've done. Those casting crowns are the angels who are about step down in the next age. There's too much evidence that points to it however there are those who disagree ... but it's not about the scope you are applying in this thread.
https://www.christianforums.com/threads/casting-crowns.7772032/#post-64091621

 

[Emil Racovita]

I read this thread and I found only daydreams daydreams and more daydreams. How you all can understand prophecy like Apocalypse (revelation) when you do not understand the teachings of Lord Christ from Matthew, Mark, Luke and John ? Take and read Matthew 10:35-39, but please explain verse 38.

 

[stormdancer0]

I am in an intense study on Revelation, The Old testament saints "or" New testament being the 24 Elders, I do believe this is the raptured or "caught up" NT testament church, However it brings me to a question, "are the Old testament saints still in "paradise" [Abraham's bosom]or did Christ descend and take them to heaven at the resurrection?
I believe that Christ did descend and remove them to heaven; imo
but the parable of the laborers in Matthew 20:1-16 So the last will be first, and the first will be last. Has me wondering as well as a couple of opinions from others that I have heard.
What are some of your ideas here?

IMO, the 24 elders are the 12 sons of Israel and the 12 apostles - the 11 faithful ones and Paul.
I think that Jesus took Paradise to heaven. He told the thief, "Today, you will be with me in paradise." So the thief went to paradise. But Jesus took the OT saints to heaven with him. So paradise would either be taken or left empty

 

[stormdancer0]

What does taking up our cross have to do with the question. I'm confused.