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"Study Islam" - what does it mean?

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“Study Islam” – this is the final word of Muslims when they were cornered with questions. It compelled me to think a lot. What to study in Islam? Is it a text book or a three-year course to study? This is one of the main “advantages” and peculiarity of Islam apart from other religions. If it is the Pillars of Islam to study, then almost all persons know it. I came to know about world religions and their tenets from our Sunday School Catechism. So a person who has completed 9th level in Sunday School would know the Pillars of Islam, Ahimsa of Hinduism, Nirvana of Buddhism, animal sacrifice of Judaism, etc. So far as I am concerned, I read Quran more than 10 times. I have read it two times by concealing the controversial verses such as in Sura 9 at least to find out something motivating me. But I felt Quran as useless and cheap. If you add something to Sura 23, it forms the entire Quran! Lack of proper arrangement, unnecessary repetition, etc. made it uninteresting. Even if I could argue with an Islamic scholar and prove Islam and Quran as a masterminded effort of Satan, they would still ask me to “Study Islam”!!


If religion is about God who exists in Spirit, what to study about Him? He must be experienced. You must feel His existence in your heart. All religions except Islam urged its followers to “experience” God; but Islam asked to “study” it. Christianity is in the forefront on compulsorily asking its followers to experience Lord Jesus Christ. As regarding converts, a Christian scholar remarked that it is better to be a Muslim than a “poor Christian”. There is no tragedy in this world than becoming a “nominal Christian” whose religious life is restricted to “visit” the Church on Sundays or having a Christian name. The person who is writing this message was also a “nominal Christian” for 15 years – a Christian who “visited” Church on Sundays to avoid the angry of mother, to meet friends, etc. But after attending a spiritual retreat conducted by “Jesus Youth”, I became a practicing Christian. My life has totally changed thereafter. I made new destinations followed by decisive footsteps to reach it. I became disciplined; my addiction to music and films had gone completely; great success has been attained in academic studies; my parents got a caring, loving and obeying son; my friends got a sincere friend; my friends found Jesus through me; etc. I have been experiencing God in my life. I feel Jesus keeping my hands and helping me to search new skies. The presence of Jesus compelled me to search for high standards. It urges me to possess some apex dreams and work for it.


To experience God, we should have personal relationship with God. It is absent in Islam. For Islam, Allah is too great to reach. While the Quran says that God is closer to man "than his jugular vein" (50:16) — such nearness is a technical nearness. For Muslims, God is great, but unknowable. Muslims have religion, but they do not have a personal relationship with God. If you want a religion, Islam has a lot to offer. But if you want a relationship with the one true God and the peace and assurance that comes from knowing Him personally, then you MUST GO BACK into the Scriptures of the prophets and to the Gospel of Lord Jesus Christ.


The reply from Muslims would be very fast - "We believe all the prophets!" and "We believe in Jesus! He was a great prophet and messenger of Allah!" Then the next question is, "What does it mean to believe a prophet? It means to understand and believe their prophecies and messages, isn’t it? Where do we find the message of the prophets? It is in the Scriptures of the prophets!"


The Quran acclaimed that the Torah, the Psalms and the Gospel are Word of God (5:44-46; 4:163; 40:71; 10:94; etc.), and that "the Word of God shall never change. That is the supreme triumph" (10:64). If the Quran is trustworthy to a Muslim, and if he is honest, he is BOUND to accept "the previous scriptures" wholeheartedly (Quran 20:133). He has no option nor alternative in that case. Yet all Muslims reject the message of these Holy Books, simply saying that they have been altered, corrupted, changed, ad nauseam. After searching for more than a decade, I still wait to hear who changed, when and for what. As is the case to this very day, many of the Jews and Christians were guilty of twisting their Scriptures with their tongue (Quran 3:71,78), but the fact is that the Scripture was considered intact during the time of Muhammad (3:93; 10:94; 21:7; etc.). [See how Protestants oppose Catholics by twisting the Biblical verses; and Ariel Sharon and other hard line Jews always quote Biblical verses to justify their aggression over Palestinians saying that the whole territory was gifted to them by Yahweh].


In the first four centuries after Mohamed (AD 600-1000), no Muslim theologian contended that the Gospel texts were not authentic. It was only with Ibn-Khazem, who died at Cordoba in 1064, that the charge of falsification was born. When he found out contradictions between Quran and Gospel, he argued, “it must be the conflicting Gospel texts that are false. But Mohamed told us to respect the Gospel. Therefore, the present text must have been falsified by the Christians”.


Many great Muslim thinkers have accepted the authenticity of the New Testament text. The important figures among them are: great historians like Al-Mas’udi (died in 956) and Ibn-Khaldun (died in 1406); Ali at Tabari (died in 869); Al-Ghazzali (died in 1111); Abu Ali Husain Ibn Sina, who is known in the West as Avicenna (died in 1037); and Bukhari (died in 870) who acquired a great name by his collection of early traditions, quoted the Quran itself (Sura 3, 72, 78) to prove that the text of the Bible was not falsified.

Sir Sayyid Ahmed Khan, founder of Aligarh Muslim University in India, which is a major Muslim university in a non-Muslim country in the world, has written: "In the opinion of us Mohammedans, it is not proved that corruption (tahrif-i-lafzi)..... was practised". Sir Sayyid quotes Imam Bukhari and Fakhruddin Razi as agreeing with him. Fakhruddin Razi states on the authority of Ibn Abbas, a granson of Muhammed, that "The Jews and early Christians were suspected of altering the text of the Taurat and Injil (Old & New Testament) but in the opinion of eminent doctors and theologians it was not practicable thus to corrupt the text, because those Scriptures were generally known and widely circulated, having been handed down from generation to generation". It is now the duty of Muslims to decide whether to follow the words of mediocre Imams / hypocrite Mullahs or great Muslim personalities!!


I’m fed up with other justifications of Muslims – we believe in all prophets and acclaimed their messages? But really, Islam denies the central message of all prophets. What is the central message of the prophets? That God, in His infinite plan and unmeasurable love, would "become flesh" in order to fulfill the symbolic meaning of millions of animal sacrifices and hundreds of detailed prophecies — by willingly shedding His blood as the perfect substitutionary sacrifice to pay the sin-penalty for helpless sinners, and then conquer death by rising from the grave — thus establishing an everlasting peace between the one true God and all who believe in HIM and HIS way of salvation.


Isaiah makes it clear: “The sins of man is acting as a stumbling block between God and man”; and “I am not satisfied with your animal sacrifices”. So it is clear that animal sacrifice is not enough for the sins of human beings; but the sacrifice of a man is MANDATORY for the sins of human beings. The man who has to pay the penalty for the sins of mankind must be SINLESS. If he is also suffering from sin, then who will shed blood to remove his sins? So the man who has to make sacrifice must be sinless. Could you show me a man without sin in the past, present or future? We could call anyone ranging from beggar to Pope “a sinner”. Only God is sinless. As per Quran, only Jesus is sinless at birth and led a sinless life. Then God started giving messages to prophets about the seriousness of sins and the coming of Messiah to remove the sins of mankind. On due time, the sinless God was born in flesh from Mother Mary. The rest is history.


See what the prophet Isaiah wrote concerning the coming Messiah 700 years before Jesus was born (please note that the book of Isaiah is confirmed by discovery of original manuscripts from Qumran caves. So don’t come with your third-rate talk shop about the corruption of Bible): "Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a Son, and shall call His name Immanuel [meaning, "God with us"]. For unto us a Child is born, unto us a Son is given ... and His name will be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. ... He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed." (Isa. 7:14; 9:6; 53:5)


After 700 years, the promised Prince of Peace was born into our sinful world. In His Last Supper, He told His disciples, "Peace I leave with you, My peace I give to you; not as the world gives do I give to you. Let not your heart be troubled, neither let it be afraid. ... Greater love has no one than this, than to lay down one’s life for his friends. If the world hates you, you know that it hated Me before it hated you. ... If they persecuted Me, they will also persecute you. ..." (John 14:27; 15:13,20,21)


The greatest tragedy in the history of mankind is that Lord Jesus Christ has been reduced or restricted from the Messiah to the founder of Christianity. To believe in the Salvation offered by Jesus Christ should not mean to embrace the religion of Christianity. I have a friend called Bhoopathi Sankara Narayanan, a Tamil Brahmin, now practicing as a Chartered Accountant in Bangalore. His wife, Mrs. Usha Parvathi, is also a Chartered Accountant. I met them in a conference conducted by the Institute of Chartered Accountants of India. I became perplexed on knowing that both of them along with their 4 children embraced Lord Jesus Christ as their God and Savior. But he would not allow others to call him as “Ex-Brahmin”. He told me: “Now I felt that I completed my status of being a Hindu by embracing Lord Jesus who really practiced the basic principle of Hinduism (Ahimsa) in his life. Even if Jesus might not have uttered the word of “Ahimsa”, his life and message proved it”. I’m not satisfied with the explanations of Mr. Bhoopathi making Jesus adaptable to Hinduism, but I had to appreciate the courage of that traditional Brahmin who found truth in Lord Jesus in his own way.


Religion is only a channel to God through its own means such as prayers, good works, etc. There is no truth in itself. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is God coming to mankind in the Person of Jesus and offering them a RELATIONSHIP with Himself. And what makes it so wonderful and sure is that the Gospel of Jesus Christ is that "which God promised BEFOREHAND through His prophets in the Holy Scriptures..." (Romans 1:2).


Lord Jesus Christ said, “you could know the fake prophets from their fruits”. If you want to judge Mohamed and his Islam, then look to their fruits. Please show me an Islamic society in the past or present that existed in peace? Even after existing for 1300 years in this world, no Islamic country or society had lived or is living in peace. You could start from rich Saudi Arabia to poor Sudan. How can it promote true peace when it denies the very means God has provided to establish a lasting peace between God and man, and between man and man? All the prophets bear witness to the fact that Jesus "made peace through the blood of His cross. And you, who once were alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now He has reconciled in the body of His flesh through death, to present you holy, and blameless, and above reproach in His sight... For [Christ Jesus] Himself is our peace, who has made both one, and has broken down the middle wall of division between us ..." (Colossians 1:20-22; Ephesians 2:14). Or as the prophet Micah wrote of the Messiah 700 years before He was born, "This One shall be peace."


The reason is simple – you demeaned the Prince of Peace to the cheapest rank of a prophet. That also, in par with a cheap war monger from pagan Arabia who showed unlimited lust for the meat of women.


Let’s pray to God to give His blessings of Wisdom to all.


Sijo.
 

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The Quran acclaimed that the Torah, the Psalms and the Gospel are Word of God (5:44-46; 4:163; 40:71; 10:94; etc.), and that "the Word of God shall never change. That is the supreme triumph" (10:64). If the Quran is trustworthy to a Muslim, and if he is honest, he is BOUND to accept "the previous scriptures" wholeheartedly (Quran 20:133). He has no option nor alternative in that case.

This is where knowing Arabi comes in handy. The 'Word of God' as refered to in other verses means promises of God, not scripture. Sorry

Narrated Ubaidullah: "Ibn 'Abbas said, 'Why do you ask the people of the scripture about anything while your Book (Quran) which has been revealed to Allah's Apostle is newer and the latest? You read it pure, undistorted and unchanged, and Allah has told you that the people of the scripture (Jews and Christians) changed their scripture and distorted it, and wrote the scripture with their own hands and said, 'It is from Allah,' to sell it for a little gain. Does not the knowledge which has come to you prevent you from asking them about anything? No, by Allah, we have never seen any man from them asking you regarding what has been revealed to you!' (Translation of Sahih Bukhari, Holding Fast to the Qur'an and Sunnah, Volume 9, Book 92, Number 461)"


As for the rest of your post, I'd like to see you cite some sources. If you're going to throw around the names of famous muslims, you better have something to back it up.

And FYI, for future reference, the New Testament is different then the gospels. Jesus brought the Gospels, or the Injeel, not the New Testament. The letters of Paul and what not have no standing what so ever in Islam
 
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sijo said:
To experience God, we should have personal relationship with God. It is absent in Islam. For Islam, Allah is too great to reach. While the Quran says that God is closer to man "than his jugular vein" (50:16) — such nearness is a technical nearness. For Muslims, God is great, but unknowable. Muslims have religion, but they do not have a personal relationship with God. If you want a religion, Islam has a lot to offer. But if you want a relationship with the one true God and the peace and assurance that comes from knowing Him personally, then you MUST GO BACK into the Scriptures of the prophets and to the Gospel of Lord Jesus Christ.

That (the craving of a relationship with God) dawned upon the Muslims quite early on, giving rise to the Sufi movement within Islam. Of course, in the process, God’s transcendence was done away with, and replaced with pantheism, in which every human being strives to become God. Sufism is one of the roots of the modern New Age Movement.
 
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To experience God, we should have personal relationship with God. It is absent in Islam. For Islam, Allah is too great to reach. While the Quran says that God is closer to man "than his jugular vein" (50:16) — such nearness is a technical nearness. For Muslims, God is great, but unknowable. Muslims have religion, but they do not have a personal relationship with God.
Sijo yet again you display your real lack of understanding and depth into Islam! Go read, research and then come bak...
 
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Although I don't go around claiming God is my best buddy, I do have a close relationship with Him.

He is my Rabb - my Lord
as-Salam - my source of Peace
al-Ghaffar - my forgiver
al-Kaliq - my Creator
ar-Razzaq - my Provider
al-Hafiz - my Preserver
al-Mujib - the Responsive
ar-Raqib - the Watchful
al-Wasi- the all embracing
al-Wadud - the Loving
al-Wali - my protector
al-Barr- the source of all goodness
al-Afuw - the pardoner
at-Tawwib - the Acceptor of repentance
as-Saboor - the Patient

Among many others. Before one goes and makes claims about what a muslims' relationship with God is, perhaps they should actually ask a muslim or 2
 
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Heathen Dawn said:
Rahma, you quoted some of His 99 names. Anyone can do that.

The 99 names are there for a reason. It means that God is each of those with his followers

But do you know Him not just on paper, but also in person? Do you converse, like one person to another?

Since God is not a person and never will be, no, I don't converse with him in person. However, the tradition of dua, suplication, is direct communication with God. Maybe He doesn't answer back with words, but that doesn't make it communication.
 
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Fatherlike, yet not a father
Parentlike, yet not a parent
Personal, yet not a person

A very intreguing view of God the Muslims have. I must acknowledge and admire their devotion; it is inspiring (even if I disagree with some of their beliefs). :)
 
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1vision said:
I guess my question is what is the meaning and depth of relationship between you and allah rahma? is it just what you have heard and studied in the koran or is it truly personal experience?

While I am not quite sure why my relationship with God is so fascinating, I suppose I could answer. It comes from both. Five times a day, I am on my knees, humbled in front of my Creator. To humble yourself in front of your Lord is a truly personal experience.
 
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rahma said:
Since God is not a person and never will be, no, I don't converse with him in person.
That means, you are the concerned person to decide whether God could be a person or not! You possess the authority to make final judgement that God would never be a person!

If the Eternal Word of God could become a Book called Quran (as you claim), why it is not possible for God to become a Person?

If God could restrict himself to a burning bush in the ground so as to speak to Prophet Moses DIRECTLY, then why He could not become a person?

You told that "God is not a person and never will be": that means, you decided that something is impossible for God.

But this missionary of Lord Jesus Christ is giving the final testament to you:

A lot of things are IMPOSSIBLE for the pagan moon god called Allah;

BUT EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE FOR GOD, THE ALMIGHTY, WHO HAS CREATED THE MANKIND AND UNIVERSE!

Do you know this? If yes, please be convinced. If not, go back to your true faith in Lord Jesus Christ. He is waiting there for you.

sijo.
 
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PaladinValer said:
sijo, you have a lot to learn why Muslims believe the way they do. You think you do, and you argue as if you do, but since you are so misinformed, you get it wrong every time.
It is very easy to say that someone is wrong. But please try to prove it. I note from the very beginning, since I post a controversial post about the sexual life of Mohamed, you have been very ardent to come down on me saying that I don't know anything about Islam, etc. What is your intention? I agree, some of my posts contain bigotry. If you want to know the message, just copy and paste it to your file; remove all the fanatical words calling Mohamed as war monger or male prostitute, etc.; then read it. Then you tell me, what to know more about Mohamed and Islam?

Could you deny the circumstances made by Mohamed that compelled Zayd to divorce Zaynab? A muslim replied that it was for protecting widows and children. Then my question, "was marriage mandatory to protect widows and children?" There might had been a lot of boys and age-old people who lost parents and relatives in wars. If marriage is required to "protect" anyone, then it is sure that Mohamed had married them also!

Further, in this reply to Rahma, what is wrong in it? Don't bluff. Please be specific. Rahma is deciding here that God could not be a person! How she could make such a decision? As it relates to her faith, she could explain her faith. This is the right forum - Non Christian Religion. But how she could make a STRINGENT DECISION that God COULD NOT BE A PERSON? She is a normal human being as you and me. She would not have 10 heads nor 15 legs; but a normal human being. She suffers all merits and demerits of a mortal being. I just tried to state - Nothing is impossible for God. If something is impossible for God, then He ceases to be God.

Could you think in the opposite? If yes, please remove the words "Paladin for Holy Trinity". It is like insulting others believing in Triune God.

sijo.
 
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1) I'm a religious studies minor who own's a Qur'an, knows Middle-eastern history (BA in history mind you), and has personally studied Islam and how orthodox Muslims (aka, anti-Osama bin Laden Muslims) interpret the Qur'an. I know the history, culture, and am learning the linguistics behind the Qur'an; can you say the same?

2) Muslims don't believe Allah (God) is a "person" in the sense that Christians do. Why? Because they refuse to associate anything on Earth with God in the most literal sense; the same goes in lesser extent perhaps for the Jews. By your logic, that makes YHVH a false deity too...oops; there goes your argument!

3) Muhammad was no pedophile. You judge 600 ce Arabian culture by 2000's "western" culture norms and you simply cannot logically do this. Furthermore, all the "evidence" that Muhammad had illegitimate sex with little children is a load of rubbish and has never historically been proven; take it from a historian.

4) Bigotry is one of the great evils of the world. It is why there is so much strife and it is created by misleading information, lies, and nonsential propaganda. As a Christian, it is my stedfast, obligatory job to end this evil and promote peace and understanding. Just because I'm a Christian and a number of posters here are Muslim on a Christian message board doesn't give me the right to hide under the board's protection and insult every Muslim by bashing his/her religion with lies and out-and-out hatred. Instead, it means I should act as a Christian should, offering friendship, love, and peace to everyone, Christian or otherwise.

Oh, and just because I stand up against your "colorful" posts doesn't mean I'm not a Christian and don't believe in the Holy Trinity. Everyone else here on this message board who has seen my posts in the Christian-only section knows exactly my views on it and knows that I'm a proponent of orthodox, historic Christianity, denominational boundaries regardless. And your ad hominem attacks towards me due to this post and those above in this thread won't do anything to change my title, nickname, or my views; they infact strengthen them.
 
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PaladinValer said:
1) I'm a religious studies minor who own's a Qur'an, knows Middle-eastern history (BA in history mind you), and has personally studied Islam and how orthodox Muslims (aka, anti-Osama bin Laden Muslims) interpret the Qur'an. I know the history, culture, and am learning the linguistics behind the Qur'an; can you say the same?

2) Muslims don't believe Allah (God) is a "person" in the sense that Christians do. Why? Because they refuse to associate anything on Earth with God in the most literal sense; the same goes in lesser extent perhaps for the Jews. By your logic, that makes YHVH a false deity too...oops; there goes your argument!

3) Muhammad was no pedophile. You judge 600 ce Arabian culture by 2000's "western" culture norms and you simply cannot logically do this. Furthermore, all the "evidence" that Muhammad had illegitimate sex with little children is a load of rubbish and has never historically been proven; take it from a historian.

4) Bigotry is one of the great evils of the world. It is why there is so much strife and it is created by misleading information, lies, and nonsential propaganda. As a Christian, it is my stedfast, obligatory job to end this evil and promote peace and understanding. Just because I'm a Christian and a number of posters here are Muslim on a Christian message board doesn't give me the right to hide under the board's protection and insult every Muslim by bashing his/her religion with lies and out-and-out hatred. Instead, it means I should act as a Christian should, offering friendship, love, and peace to everyone, Christian or otherwise.

Oh, and just because I stand up against your "colorful" posts doesn't mean I'm not a Christian and don't believe in the Holy Trinity. Everyone else here on this message board who has seen my posts in the Christian-only section knows exactly my views on it and knows that I'm a proponent of orthodox, historic Christianity, denominational boundaries regardless. And your ad hominem attacks towards me due to this post and those above in this thread won't do anything to change my title, nickname, or my views; they infact strengthen them.
Thanks for your reply. I noted your message. Please let me to answer one by one:

1. I have no problem for you having a BA in History. OK.

2. I am not learning linguistics behind Quran. I have read Quran more than 10 times (2 times by concealing the conversial words in Quran). I found it confusing. For instance, in one page, it says Christians are good friends for Muslims; Jews and pagans are the enemies. In another page, it says Christians are learned people and committed to Gospel. In the next Sura, I became flabber gasted, it says: "SLAY THE PEOPLE OF BOOK... AMBUSH .... MURDER WHEREVER YOU SEE THEM ..... COLLECT TAX FROM THEM .... SUBDUE... FINISH DHIMMITUDE SO THAT TRUE RELIGION OF ALLAH REIGNS.............."

Now you please tell me, whether I need to learn more linguistics behind this book calling its believers to go for war for the cause of Allah?

3. You told that "You judge 600 ce Arabian culture by 2000's "western" culture norms and you simply cannot logically do this".

Voooooph.. You are totally mistaken! I am not comparing 600 ce Arabian Culture by 2000's western culture. But I am comparing 600 ce Arabian culture by the culture of pre-Islamic era of Old Testament Prophets! Even in that primitive culture, the prophets of God lived a moral life with no wife or one wife. No one showed lust for the meat of women. If you disagree, please show me a prophet in OT who had married more than once? Don't tell the name of Abraham and King Solomen as they are not prophets for Jews and Christians, but prophets ONLY for Islam? If Abraham is a prophet, please show me a prophecy made by him in the Bible or Quran? What a prophet with out prophecies?


4. You wrote: "Furthermore, all the "evidence" that Muhammad had illegitimate sex with little children is a load of rubbish and has never historically been proven" -


Oh God! I am hearing for the first time in my life that people are having sex whether legitimate or illegitimate with little children or matured people IN SUCH A WAY SO THAT IT COULD BE PROVED BY A HISTORIAN AFTER 400/500 YEARS, or if possible in MARCH 2004! A sincere thanks to Paladin for revealing new criteria.


5. You wrote: "Furthermore, all the "evidence" that Muhammad" had illegitimate sex with little children is a load of rubbish and has never historically been proven" - Could you please explain the required "evidence" to prove the sexual life of a person who lived 1300 years ago other than Hadiths written by his followers?


6. You wrote: "Muslims don't believe Allah (God) is a "person" in the sense that Christians do". I know it more better than you. Would it give a right to Rahma to DECIDE ON THE FAITH OF OTHERS?


7. You wrote: "I'm a religious studies minor who own's a Qur'an, knows Middle-eastern history (BA in history mind you), and has personally studied Islam and how orthodox Muslims (aka, anti-Osama bin Laden Muslims) interpret the Qur'an. I know the history, culture, and am learning the linguistics behind the Qur'an; can you say the same?"


I could not say the same. Each and every person has his own interests in different subjects. My interest and your interst would differ. If you are boasting about your qualifications, I could overcome you simply - a Chartered Accountant qualified with gold medal, member of Institute of Cost & Works Accountants of India and Institute of Company Secretaries of India (with rank) and Chartered Financial Analyst. Now studying for CIMA, England. A practicing Christian, a pure Vegetarian for the last 9 years and eagerly waiting for the second coming of Lord Jesus Christ. Can you say the same?

Being a voracious reader, I read Bible, Quran, Hadiths, Ramayana, Mahabharatha, Vedas and Upanishads and other historical books. I became a voracious reader viewing the basic rule I had learnt in Business Law (CA studies) - "Ignorantia juris non excusat" (Ignorance of Law is not an excuse). I made a small correction - Ignorance of knowledge is not an excuse.

If Osama Bin Laden calls himself as a real Muslim, could you deny it? He could quote verses and instances from Quran (with proper justification to the context) and Life of Mohamed that violence is justified for a Muslim.

I believe that your views have been properly answered. All the wishes in your great attempts to understand the linguistics behind Quran. I am also searching further and further in Hadiths and other readings to find something motivating me. But whenever I read further, I become totally surprised. Now I made a post called "Was Mohamed generous"? Please read it. - from Sirat Rasulallah. And please be convinced of the evidence that historically proves the lust of Mohamed for wealth and the way he murdered his fellow beings....

sijo.
 
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Careful... we're not allowed to discuss Islam. It seems only 'scholars' are allowed to discuss it... though that seems to forbid 99% of all Moslems from discussing their own religion... :D
 
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