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Ummm.. because it's the people who pay for education...-- nobody is giving our kids a free education- and people shouldn't be forced to pay for the privilige of being non thinking robots.
If a child refuses to be loyal to their/my country at a young age I don't want my property taxes used to educate them. Lack of loyalty is what got some Brits blown to bits by educated British citizens who had no loyalty to Britain a few years back.
That's too bad because your property taxes are going to do exactly that whether you like it or not. I never said it when I was younger. My kids don't say it and they are in public school. Whatcha gunna do?If a child refuses to be loyal to their/my country at a young age I don't want my property taxes used to educate them. Lack of loyalty is what got some Brits blown to bits by educated British citizens who had no loyalty to Britain a few years back.
So pledging to a flag or something similar would stop attacks would it?If a child refuses to be loyal to their/my country at a young age I don't want my property taxes used to educate them. Lack of loyalty is what got some Brits blown to bits by educated British citizens who had no loyalty to Britain a few years back.
Rediculous if true. I don't see any compelling reason to force someone to pledge allegiance to the flag. You pledge allegiance out of your own sense of duty, by your own free-will and with full knowlege that you are in fact swearing an oath. Otherwise your pledge is disingenuous and that makes you a hypocrite.
In my younger years we had a student in our class who's religious beliefs prohibited him from swearing an oath. He still rose during the pledge out of respect for the others but he did not say the pledge. I wouldn't characterize him as unpatriotic in any sense of the word. And actually we were the ones who were just going through the motions, doing what we were told just because.
If a child refuses to be loyal to their/my country at a young age I don't want my property taxes used to educate them. Lack of loyalty is what got some Brits blown to bits by educated British citizens who had no loyalty to Britain a few years back.
If a child refuses to be loyal to their/my country at a young age I don't want my property taxes used to educate them. Lack of loyalty is what got some Brits blown to bits by educated British citizens who had no loyalty to Britain a few years back.
A public high school student's refusal to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance got her booted from class in Hamilton County until a lawyer explained that her actions are religious.
Eighteen-year-old Tyner Academy senior Quinesha Garrett was removed this week from daytime classes and ordered to night school, where the pledge is not recited.
Agreed, especially when I don't agree with the way the country is going and don't see any change taking place any time soon. I will be personally loyal to what the country was founded one which seems to have been lost, but I will not pledge loyalty to something that has drifted so far away from what it promised to be in the beginning, to the ideals it was founded upon. I think my pledges are better spent elsewhere and I will instead honor the memory of what America began as.
That would be nice but it's not a serious issue if she doesn't. Many people can't stand up/sit down on command without difficulty so overlooking this shouldn't be a problem for anyone. I can't think of any good reason to question why someone isn't standing that isn't prying, and the only reason to make an issue of it is becasue someone want to exercise control over someone else. In other words...someone here wanted to "get even" for something they considered a personal slight.I don't see a problem with a student not reciting the Pledge of Allegiance.
However IMHO, she should stand out of respect.
Well, from what I understand you aren't required to recite it, but out of respect for the country that is providing the education (in most cases a free education) you should at least stand up for it.I'm a little baffled by this.
Must you recite the pledge of allegiance in order to qualify for an education? Should that be so?
There's no such thing over here in the UK. The teachers would be rather embarrased to enforce it and the kids would just muck about through the entire thing. I would say good for them if they did. Who is anyone else to tell you who to swear allegiance to?
If you won't pledge to your country why should your country give you a free education?
A public high school student's refusal to stand for the Pledge of Allegiance got her booted from class in Hamilton County until a lawyer explained that her actions are religious
I seem to remember another group of British subjects who weren't loyal. We celebrate their actions every July 4th.
The pledge is just words, and the requirement that students mindlessly recite it daily is no indication of their current or future loyalty to this nation. I will never say it because I won't pledge my loyalty to any temporal government. Governments are temporary entities that often stray far a field of their founding principals. The principals that this nation was founded on, on the other hand are something that I will pledge myself to.
Because in our country we have the freedom to not pledge if we don't want to. Saying "You have freedom of speech, but if you don't like something that's too bad, we could take it away!" is ridiculous.If you won't pledge to your country why should your country give you a free education?
Lot's of people can't/don't stand during the pledge. I don't thing the position of our bodies really matters as long as we aren't disruptive.The Supreme Court ruled that the state doesn’t have the right to compel speech from anyone, and that they can object for religious reasons or otherwise.
Freedom to speak is freedom not to speak.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Virginia_State_Board_of_Education_v._Barnette
If they actually kicked the student out because she woulden't SAY the pleadge she should sue the school.
The fact that the student woulden't stand up was the only issue they could act on:
If this is the case, it means that the article is misleadingly titled.
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