Strugling between freedom and faith ...

[MarkRohfrietsch]

Dietrich Bonhoeffer had his issues, that's a fact. However, when such a government as the Third Reich takes power, I believe he was entirely right. Yes, the Lord establishes the governing powers over us. However, the Lord of the Air is the master of the systems of this world. When a legitimate government is taken over by an evil power, then I don't believe we are obliged to submit to it. Bonhoeffer was entirely correct in his position in this matter. In fact, his position was borne out as justified toward the end of the 3rd Reich's reign.

I am not Amish. I don't believe that Luther would have supported such a government as Bonhoeffer rebelled against. There comes a time when resistance, even rebellion are called for. Otherwise, we must admit our own government is invalid and must submit to the British Crown.

Such rebellion is exactly what the Jews expected from their Messiah, yet what they got was our Lord Jesus Christ. His humanistic efforts are commendable, but the fact remains; Bonhoeffer overstepped the authority of his Pastoral calling by a long shot.

Might I add that Luther opposed the government and tyranny of Rome, not with violence, but with Sola Scriptura. To equate Luther and Bonhoeffer is comparing apples to oranges. If Luther was of the same mind-set, then he would have plotted to kill the Pope, which I think we all would agree, would have been the last thing on his mind.

Otherwise, we must <snip> submit to the British Crown.

In Canada, we do, and we are fiercely proud of it (more or less).

 

[Zecryphon]

I didn't mean to imply that you did. Sorry for the confusion.

It's okay. I may have jumped the gun on you. I'm sorry.