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Prove those statements to be untrue if you can. If you are honest you know they are true about the so-called" argument" from your side. Every free will proponent I have ever debated over the years resort to such dishonesty at some point.You're quoting that verse out of context!
You're MISREPRESENTING CALVINISM !!
You're POISONING THE WELL !!
You're bringing up Servetus !!
( shrug )
A lot of Preformed ones use to think like that.
Until they did more study.
What do you think regarding Roman's 9?
Hard to get around that one?
M-Bob
Prove those statements to be untrue if you can. If you are honest you know they are true about the so-called" argument" from your side. Every free will proponent I have ever debated over the years resort to such dishonesty at some point.
Lol, God says people do things against his will, you say we can't and now you contradict your self and say that people do resist him. Which is it? Is God irresistibly decreeing that men resist him and then punishing them for doing what he rendered certain would happen?I didn't misunderstand. It was obvious the reason he quoted the verse out of it's context. Resisting the Spirit is what all men do by default. Rom. 1 makes it clear that all men have a knowledge of God in them but they hate Him so they change the glory of God into the likeness of man. They resist the truth of the Scriptures that were inspired by the Spirit and will not believe that they might have life.
Not at all. You just misunderstand it. Plus Calvinists consistently only quote part of the chapter, because quoting the whole thing doesn't fit their agenda.A lot of Preformed ones use to think like that.
Until they did more study.
What do you think regarding Roman's 9?
Hard to get around that one?
M-Bob
Bringing up Server is IS true regarding me, what is wrong with bringing up HISTORY? Butch 5 did NOT bring it up, but got accused of doing so
The others are accusations about me or anyone that discusses Calvinism without espousing it.
Please show me where I ever said that we couldn't resist Him. You simply cannot. Again that is putting words in my mouth.Lol, God says people do things against his will, you say we can't and now you contradict your self and say that people do resist him. Which is it? Is God irresistibly decreeing that men resist him and then punishing them for doing what he rendered certain would happen?
No, I said there is no augment for Calvinism in the BibleI simply couldn't resist this one.
So now your argument is that those who don't agree with you don't believe the Bible.
It definitely goes to his character.My "cause" in this thread is showing those who might be reading it that Calvinism is not true. To ponder Calvin himself and his actions in the execution of Servetus is something that one needs to be aware of in making a decision about Calvin and his theology.
Do you, twin1954, think it was a GOOD THING - the way Servetus was burned at the stake?
So just saying the name Servetus wasn't intended to goad?My "cause" in this thread is showing those who might be reading it that Calvinism is not true. To ponder Calvin himself and his actions in the execution of Servetus is something that one needs to be aware of in making a decision about Calvin and his theology.
Do you, twin1954, think it was a GOOD THING - the way Servetus was burned at the stake?
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